Poll: morale and routing

[Huzurdaddi]

as SCs with heavy armour can't deal with large numbers of elementals.

Note that elementals are one of the few ( only ? ) troops that can take on SC's. If you take them out of the battle the rest of his impressive army would have been destroyed by one of your ice devils ( assuming it was well equipped, and assuming no artifacts).

I've actually never tried to make an SC which is specifically tailored to take on elementals. I would figure that I would have to emphasize defence over prot. Perhaps an ice devil with a blood thorn, a shield of the accursed, a flame helmet or perhaps a starshine, Chainmail of displacement, a lucky coin and something for resistances could take them out. He would have a very high defence value. Sadly I don't have a save game handy to test this out. But I would figure that with a decent starting icedevil, let's say Oriax, he could slaughter the whole bunch. Of course the problem is that he would have elemental resistance problems, but you can't have everything. But with ice devils and many others you can come close.

It hurts me to say that the normal troops are a total non-factor since Daoine Sidhe are perhaps the best recruitable troop in the game on a cost adjusted basis. I really like those guys. I wish that they would be a factor in this battle.

[Graeme Dice]

Huzurdaddi said:
If you take them out of the battle the rest of his impressive army would have been destroyed by one of your ice devils ( assuming it was well equipped, and assuming no artifacts).

One ice devil would not have taken out that army. The only survivors were the commanders, and the ice devils had a great deal of trouble even hitting the sidhe.

[Huzurdaddi]

The only survivors

Makes sense. We all know that SC's rule the day and *sadly* troops ( including summoned troops ) become chaff.

and the ice devils had a great deal of trouble even hitting the sidhe.

Come now. Perhaps you should define "a great deal" perhaps with a top flight bless effect and 2 stars of xp an ice devil should be hitting right around 50% of the time, depending upon item loadout. Given what you are saying ( that they commanders stayed behind after all of the troops were dead ) I have to assume that the ice devils went beserk so I'm going to guess that they had hellswords if which case they should hit more in the 80% range ( could even be greater, but there are so many variables I'll leave it up to the reader to figure out the exact percentage ).

[Graeme Dice]

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Huzurdaddi said:
Makes sense. We all know that SC's rule the day and *sadly* troops ( including summoned troops ) become chaff.[/quote

If you're going to ignore my explanations of what happened in a battle that you didn't witness, then we aren't going to get very far here.

Come now. Perhaps you should define "a great deal" perhaps with a top flight bless effect and 2 stars of xp an ice devil should be hitting right around 50% of the time, depending upon item loadout.

Which is less than 1 kill per turn on average, thanks to glamour, which means that they certainly can't kill many enemy troops at all.