Frozen Heart

Endoperez · #1 November 20th, 2004, 07:09 AM

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PvK said:
2) MR does already seem to protect against it, or so it seemed to me when I tried it.

Are you sure you aren't just seeing the results of a good armour roll on the part of the targeted unit?

Forzen Heart is armor negating.

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So I assume that is the devs intent, and wouldn't argue with it. Also, it seems correct, as it is a Water-1 spell, even if it is Alt-6, so otherwise it would be seem to me a really cheap automatic hit.

Well, it's not like water has anything else going for it on the battlefield, so that's really not that much of an issue.

Instant hit killing one (non-cold-resistant) human or comparable unit is not that frightening by the time one has level 6 spells. It is almost always two because you'll already have Quickness when you get Frozen Heart, but unless your enemy has all-undead armies lead by few living mages I don't think it will be automatic win.

This was written as if cold resistance worked against it, as I think it should. Frozen Heart already doesn't affect any inanimate targets, by the description. I think that means Statues and Golems, and might include elementals and the like. On the other hand, I think it *should* affect elemental royalties. Both thematically and by game mechanics.

Graeme Dice · #2 November 20th, 2004, 02:08 PM

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Forzen Heart is armor negating.

That doesn't matter. It's still damage + 2d6OE - 2d6 OE, which can fairly easily work out to little or no actual damage with the small damage potential of frozen heart.

Graeme Dice · #3 November 20th, 2004, 02:27 PM

I've just ran some tests with frozen heart and Version 2.14. I tried it out against non-lifeless, non-cold immune troops such as ghouls and archers, against lifeless cold immune troops such as longdead, and against caelum troops. It will target longdead, if there are no other suitable targets, but will not damage them. It does not damage Caelum's troops either. It will kill non-cold immune troops, but not always with one hit as they may roll a lucky number for their damage reduction.

deccan · #4 November 20th, 2004, 09:15 PM

Thanks for the tests Graeme. That does help clear things up.

PDF · #5 November 22nd, 2004, 08:59 AM

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I've just ran some tests with frozen heart and Version 2.14. I tried it out against non-lifeless, non-cold immune troops such as ghouls and archers, against lifeless cold immune troops such as longdead, and against caelum troops. It will target longdead, if there are no other suitable targets, but will not damage them. It does not damage Caelum's troops either. It will kill non-cold immune troops, but not always with one hit as they may roll a lucky number for their damage reduction.

And about the Ghouls (or other non-mindless undead) : are they targeted ? Killed ? I'm pretty sure I saw a Bane killed by FH (that was the reason of the thread..), was I wrong ?

Graeme Dice · #6 November 22nd, 2004, 12:10 PM

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And about the Ghouls (or other non-mindless undead) : are they targeted ? Killed ?

Ghouls aren't cold-resistant, so yes, they are targeted and killed.