An Inquiry into the Merits of Doom Horrors

[Tuna]

Boron said:
The biggest advantage of the doom horror is his high mobility combined with his great built in abilities.

Agree.

Everything has advantages and disadvantages this makes dominions so great

Agree even more .

From the non-unique Thugs imo the devil is the best because he only costs 30 blood , has a very good att/def + built in fly / FR . Only the -50% CR hurt + possible use of Flamebeaus/Herald lances against him.

Well, there I disagree. I prefer bane lords
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Unit Name    Sz HP Prt Mor MR Enc Str Att Def Pre Mv   Ldr

Devil     x1 3  35 8   30  17 2   14  18  16  12  3/12 25/25

Bane Lord x1 3  42 20  18  16 0   19  14  14  10  3/6  25/125

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The key differences being lack of flying, higher price (10D vs 30Blood), but 2 full resistances (CR, PR vs FR, CS), better base equip (so non-full equip is a possibility) Encumberance (this is importnant if fighting stuff like skeletons or false horrors), Strenght (importnant vs high-prot units), and lack of 4 attack and 2 def.

Many SCs have only 2 attacks / turn so they are really often easily immobilized by lots of false horrors / skeletons .

Long weapons and attack help immensely vs this, if you manage to repel a false horror, it dies. So, burning pearl and a long enouh weapon it is.

There is just no "optimal" choice in dominions like cataphract bowmen / cataphract elephants in Rome TW e.g.

Agree.

[Boron]

Tuna said:

Well, there I disagree. I prefer bane lords
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Unit Name    Sz HP Prt Mor MR Enc Str Att Def Pre Mv   Ldr

Devil     x1 3  35 8   30  17 2   14  18  16  12  3/12 25/25

Bane Lord x1 3  42 20  18  16 0   19  14  14  10  3/6  25/125

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The key differences being lack of flying, higher price (10D vs 30Blood), but 2 full resistances (CR, PR vs FR, CS), better base equip (so non-full equip is a possibility) Encumberance (this is importnant if fighting stuff like skeletons or false horrors), Strenght (importnant vs high-prot units), and lack of 4 attack and 2 def.

Good post Tuna .

The big disadvantage with the banelord for me is though his undeadness . Dust to dust + Wither bones will make dust of him unfortunately rather easy , to a lesser extent the same with solar rays .
Once the enemy has a staff of storm the Banelord is imo really screwed with his then really slow movement .

Already earlygame the banelord is kinda screwed against any nation with air or nature mages who have death as well .
So ctis , jotunheim and machaka especially can give the banelord a great threat early with the eagle eye + dust to dust combo .

Earlygame though your bigger mobility is an advantage and the enemy can't protect all his provinces with 1-2 mages .


But in mid - lategame in bigger battles the banelords are very likely to get killed by wither bones and similiar while these spells don't work against a devil thug .

Are there any other good non-unique summonable thugs/scs ? Tartarians are excellent but only if you have GoH or the Chalice .