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October 5th, 2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
Aye, there are ways of course to make it cheaper.
Of course, getting construction 8. Forging a fire 3, Earth 3 Unique, Choosing Ulm, Then a blood 5 mage or god is one of the ways.
I wouls say contracts are something you really have to want to use to make a big difference.
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October 6th, 2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
Of course, if you play Mictlan, you can spend a vast ammount of blood slaves on dominion increasing. The lack of temple based dominion spread really screws you up.
In fact I would go as far to say its a little harsh. Though I speak from the point mainly of playing Mictlan and suffering under the lack of dominion. Were I to examine the whole picture maybe I would feel different.
Either way, it can cost a helluva lot of blood slaves to feed 6 or 7 Blood Sacrifice, level 4 priests with Jade Knives.
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October 6th, 2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
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Of course, if you play Mictlan, you can spend a vast ammount of blood slaves on dominion increasing. The lack of temple based dominion spread really screws you up.
In fact I would go as far to say its a little harsh. Though I speak from the point mainly of playing Mictlan and suffering under the lack of dominion. Were I to examine the whole picture maybe I would feel different.
Either way, it can cost a helluva lot of blood slaves to feed 6 or 7 Blood Sacrifice, level 4 priests with Jade Knives.
Spiro
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Actually, you can work the dominion to your advantage by taking very bad scales and have them not mess you up very much. For the most part, Mictlan only spreads as much dominion as it needs to survive.
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October 6th, 2005, 01:17 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
I almost feel like thats an exploit though. I just think their should be a way, albeit different to others to have the ability to generate reasonable dominion.
I've been searching the boards for general strats on Mictlan, and there doesn't seem to be much. Its mainly what you can or can't do with blood. Mictlan are like a whole other world to that though due to some odd characteristics...the sacrifice being one of em.
Perhaps I should start a thread.
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October 6th, 2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
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For the most part, Mictlan only spreads as much dominion as it needs to survive.
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Dangerous if your enemy carries a strong dominion and makes many global spells weak or ineffective.
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October 6th, 2005, 01:33 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
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For the most part, Mictlan only spreads as much dominion as it needs to survive.
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Dangerous if your enemy carries a strong dominion and makes many global spells weak or ineffective.
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If the enemy has a strong dominion, obviously you simply need a little more push to meet that survival level. And yes some globals don't work so well, but you can switch gears and start pushing dominion if you really feel the need to use one.
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October 6th, 2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
Thanks for the ideas folks!
The problem appears to be that I don't want to let go of national troops and other such traditional things which cost income but I now see how I actually get more value turning them into magic resources.
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October 6th, 2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
the hard part is taking a prolific high population province and settign its taxes to zero.
the rest is easy. as you go eventually also equip your blood hunters with blood daggers, brazen skulls, and one of the two blood enhancing armors (one of them also enhances nature, but has its downfalls) and continue to push them along. I often get over 10 bloodslaves to a single searcher when doing it like this, you get 3 going and you're throwing out high end blood summons all over the place (not to mention succubus is the one "assassin" available to any nation willing to blood hunt. and with way more HPs than your average assassin)
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October 6th, 2005, 09:03 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
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If the enemy has a strong dominion, obviously you simply need a little more push to meet that survival level. And yes some globals don't work so well, but you can switch gears and start pushing dominion if you really feel the need to use one.
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Yes but it's because of these reasons and the extra micro-management that mictlan is usually avoided as a nation to play, especially for large maps.
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October 6th, 2005, 09:09 PM
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Re: Blood Simple?!
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Quote:
quantum_mechani said:
If the enemy has a strong dominion, obviously you simply need a little more push to meet that survival level. And yes some globals don't work so well, but you can switch gears and start pushing dominion if you really feel the need to use one.
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Yes but it's because of these reasons and the extra micro-management that mictlan is usually avoided as a nation to play, especially for large maps.
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Actually, in my experience it is one of the more popular nations.
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