Super-Combatants

Valandil · #1 December 3rd, 2005, 07:36 PM

I recently wished an ettin mandragora as c'tis with amon hotep, wraith crown, pendant of luck, sun slayer, summit, boots of quickness, bone armor. Got Strength as heroic.

18 sleep vine attacks, 2 40+ damage summits, 2 sun slayer. 30 prot, ethereal, lucky.

It died to ONE stupid SEA DWELLING FUNGUS!
my R'yleh opponent decided that casting nether darts at point blank range with an astal 14 mage was a good idea. His void lurker did more than 300 damage with one spell. That hurt.

Valandil · #2 December 3rd, 2005, 07:38 PM

Gifts from heaven does 150 damge right.

That could have worked too then...

Endoperez · #3 December 3rd, 2005, 08:02 PM

And people call the AI stupid!

Gifts from Heaven is great if it hits, but it doesn't hit very reliably... And it is hard to slow down an enemy with your own troops when the missing rocks hit them! A horde could do that, but the Mandragora Ettin had enough attacks to decimate anything he got his hands on. IIRC he is limited to targetting one square of the grid per action, so twice/round with quickness, against at most 2x6 and usually 2x3 units, though. Nether Darts is evil.

OT rambling:
I can symphatize with your loss. I play roguelikes. In them, you encounter numerous deaths, and the few characters that get far enough, and become powerful, will always die a death like this. My best ADOM character was sure winner, could melee through everything (Executor! Purifier! Emerald Dagger! Protector! etc), cast his way through everything (Preserver + Sword of Nonnak + certain herb => Acid Ball with enormous range!), and was untouchable (Moloch Armor (comparable to Monolith Armor) AND untouchable Dex of 25 EVEN when wearing it!) And, dare I say it, Ring of the Master Cat! Then he died to a darn Battle Bunny. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

They breed fast, and as the monsters are stronger after you kill many of them...

I completed the game much later, once, but that character was nowhere as powerful...

Valandil · #4 December 4th, 2005, 10:20 PM

Battle Bunny??

ya... i know about gifts from heaven. I think it is useless, although it is 0 gems. Maybe with a legion of astral random dwarven smiths or maybe not.)

What is the bonus per extra level of astral on nether darts?
(another 0 gem spell)

quantum_mechani · #5 December 4th, 2005, 10:58 PM

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Valandil said:

ya... i know about gifts from heaven. I think it is useless, although it is 0 gems. Maybe with a legion of astral random dwarven smiths or maybe not.)

No, it has it's uses, you just need good precision. Wind Guide, Eyes of Aiming, Eagle Eyes, and Aim are all good ways to boost precision. And of course simply having air magic/natural precision, or best of all, heroic precision.

Vicious Love · #6 December 5th, 2005, 01:28 PM

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quantum_mechani said:

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Valandil said:

ya... i know about gifts from heaven. I think it is useless, although it is 0 gems. Maybe with a legion of astral random dwarven smiths or maybe not.)

No, it has it's uses, you just need good precision. Wind Guide, Eyes of Aiming, Eagle Eyes, and Aim are all good ways to boost precision. And of course simply having air magic/natural precision, or best of all, heroic precision.

Know what's even better? A target-rich environment. Aww, yeah.

Seriously, against a medium-sized contingent of relatively powerful troops, these things can be much more effective than Nether Darts. And they've got the raw firepower to seriously damage a Sphinx, which isn't all that small a target. Pity they lack that feebleminding side-effect.

boltcutter · #7 December 5th, 2005, 06:48 PM

Hmm. I'm now considering a batch of dwarven-booted Arco mystics with cybereyes.

Splat! Splat! Splat!

Wish · #8 December 5th, 2005, 12:41 PM

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Valandil said:
I recently wished an ettin mandragora as c'tis with amon hotep, wraith crown, pendant of luck, sun slayer, summit, boots of quickness, bone armor. Got Strength as heroic.

18 sleep vine attacks, 2 40+ damage summits, 2 sun slayer. 30 prot, ethereal, lucky.

It died to ONE stupid SEA DWELLING FUNGUS!
my R'yleh opponent decided that casting nether darts at point blank range with an astal 14 mage was a good idea. His void lurker did more than 300 damage with one spell. That hurt.

you actually got an ettin mondragora from wish? it always tells me it can't give me that...

Vicious Love · #9 December 5th, 2005, 01:06 PM

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Valandil said:
It died to ONE stupid SEA DWELLING FUNGUS!

Anemones aren't fungi, they're animals, like you, me, and the entire cast of Wings.

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Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
you actually got an ettin mondragora from wish? it always tells me it can't give me that...

No mondragoras. Only mandragoras. Mandragoras and blood slaves.