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February 13th, 2006, 04:25 AM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
This discussion surely doesn't belong into a map thread, but you're so much wrong: CBM does not change the Trolls cost. In the unmodded game, the Troll (#518) comes @60 gold, the War Troll (#1037) @70 gold and the Troll King (#519) @150 gold.
Yes, the upkeep is meant to cost you insane amounst of gold.
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February 13th, 2006, 10:58 AM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
I was complaining that they were too cheap, actually. Didn't realize the king was 150 unmodded as well. And 30 gold for a vanilla troll (under the CB mod) is kind of crazy.
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February 13th, 2006, 08:16 PM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
yeah, but think of the upkeep. summoned trolls have no upkeep, but when you buy them in enough numbers to be effective, you'll end up in the poor house.
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February 13th, 2006, 08:37 PM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
summoned trolls do have upkeep
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February 13th, 2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
really. thought all summons where free.
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February 13th, 2006, 08:57 PM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
That's why they changed them in CB, to drop the upkeep a bit and make 'em a bit more attractive as a summon. (or so I surmise).
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February 14th, 2006, 05:20 AM
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Re: New MP game Map: Saephi
Trolls you recruit are the same ones you summon. Because they are exactly the same, and the recruit cost and upkeep are variables of the UNIT, not of the recruited province/site/summon spell, ALL trolls have the exact same upkeep.
Sea Trolls might be free. If they aren't used, no recruit (and thus upkeep) cost would have to be set.
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