Conceptual Balance Mod 5.4

[Gin]

Thank you!
Gin

[KissBlade]

I'm wondering too ... why the heck does TC's starting commanders suck so terribly compared to everyone else's starting? The starting commanders should all be somewhat equal in cold cost ...

[Oversway]

You think so? I think it should be the nations should be equal to each other, but not necessarily the starting commanders.

[KissBlade]

alright if that's true ... then why the heck does Vanheim have such a vastly superior starting commanders compared to base TC? It's not exactly like TC is the epitome of broken or Vanheim is the suck.

[Oversway]

Maybe the right way to "fix" TC is with starting commanders. I wouldn't know. I just don't think that

The starting commanders should all be somewhat equal in cold cost ...

makes for as fun of a game. For me, the more different nations play, the better.

[NTJedi]

Questions:
Reviewing the CB 5.2 readme text of the changes and I have some questions.

1) Why has AIM been given Precision of 100?? I believe the original 5 was way too low... but an increase to 100 seems way too much. That's giving a mage perfection at casting.... a bonus of 22 feels more accurate. lvl_1 alteration

2) Why is Baleful Star only 1 astral?? Reading the spell description I believed this spell gave a percentage chance for troops to be cursed in the target province... for 1 astral that's way too good of a deal. Perhaps I'm wrong on what the spell does. lvl_5 alteration

3) I don't see why the spell heal had it's distance reduced by half. Was the spell really too powerful before?
lvl_3 enchantment

4) Why were Foul Air and Lure of the Deep dropped so drastically in gem price?? Seems too extremely easy to get these nasty spells up. lvl_6&7 thaumaturgy

5) Why is the Ivy King more equal in stats with a Vine Ogre?? (Sea)Trolls are not more equal in stats with (Sea)Troll Kings. summoned monster

6) One of the Ice Devils originally had fire immunity which is not listed in the readme text file. Why has his fire immunity been removed for that specific Ice Devil??


The other changes all look good or great from the quick review I finished.

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quick comment: Bog Beasts should have higher morale otherwise they usually quickly flee.

[Graeme Dice]

1) Why has AIM been given Precision of 100?? I believe the original 5 was way too low... but an increase to 100 seems way too much.

Aim provides a boost of 5 precision. The 100 precision on the spell represents the accuracy with which the aim spell will hit the target grid square that the mage that casts it wants it to hit. With the old precision on aim, it could miss, which made it pretty useless compared to eagle eyes.

2) Why is Baleful Star only 1 astral?? Reading the spell description I believed this spell gave a percentage chance for troops to be cursed in the target province... for 1 astral that's way too good of a deal.

It will curse about a dozen troops, which is really weak for the original cost.

4) Why were Foul Air and Lure of the Deep dropped so drastically in gem price?? Seems too extremely easy to get these nasty spells up.

They are very situational, and both use gems that would be much better spent on other things given the original cast. Have you ever seen a game won or lost because of either spell?

6) One of the Ice Devils originally had fire immunity which is not listed in the readme text file. Why has his fire immunity been removed for that specific Ice Devil??

Balance purposes. The ice devils were taken down to -50% fire resistance.

[Wish]

The ice devil still has it, or at least they do in whatver version of CB we're using in CoW

[quantum_mechani]

NTJedi said:
1) Why has AIM been given Precision of 100?? I believe the original 5 was way too low... but an increase to 100 seems way too much. That's giving a mage perfection at casting.... a bonus of 22 feels more accurate. lvl_1 alteration

Trust me, it's still plenty difficult to get it cast on the right thing.

2) Why is Baleful Star only 1 astral?? Reading the spell description I believed this spell gave a percentage chance for troops to be cursed in the target province... for 1 astral that's way too good of a deal. Perhaps I'm wrong on what the spell does. lvl_5 alteration

This was a bit overkill boosting, next version it will be somewhere between base and this.

3) I don't see why the spell heal had it's distance reduced by half. Was the spell really too powerful before?
lvl_3 enchantment

Not sure what you mean, I can't mod spell range if I wanted to.

4) Why were Foul Air and Lure of the Deep dropped so drastically in gem price?? Seems too extremely easy to get these nasty spells up. lvl_6&7 thaumaturgy

I have yet to see either cast apart from by the AI, so we'll see.

5) Why is the Ivy King more equal in stats with a Vine Ogre?? (Sea)Trolls are not more equal in stats with (Sea)Troll Kings. summoned monster

I belive many of the ivy king stats were already better than vine ogres.

6) One of the Ice Devils originally had fire immunity which is not listed in the readme text file. Why has his fire immunity been removed for that specific Ice Devil??

Possibly since IIRC his hellsword was removed at some stage of the lifedrain balancing.

quick comment: Bog Beasts should have higher morale otherwise they usually quickly flee.

I'll look into it.