Death scales/Gift of Natures Bounty

KissBlade · #1 August 23rd, 2006, 11:55 PM

Turmoil is by far the biggest income killer compared to any other scales.

Ygorl · #2 August 24th, 2006, 12:56 AM

For the record, scales of Death 1 would be 13% less income than Death 0 after 60 turns. Death 2 is 25% less, and Death 3 is 34% less.

Arker · #3 August 24th, 2006, 01:57 AM

Would it be correct to extrapolate that means about 240 turns to take income to absolute zero? If that's more or less correct it means that in a large map game where that many turns are to be expected, even death 1 is too much unless you're playing undead. Ermors themes can handle this of course, I haven't played the Ctis and Pangea undead themes enough to know if they can or not though.

I'm not sure if it's by percentage or an absolute value, but with death one and GoNB up, my lowest population province went from 320 to 310 population the next month. A rough guess would say 31 more turns to 0 pop, but that might be off depending on how it's calculated. Should have kept a tally for a few turns before I cast it to see how much it changed, but sadly didn't think of that until after. At any rate, GoNB isn't enough to reverse it, and even though it wasn't that far into the game, I was already noticing the provinces I had marked in mind for blood hunting later were swiftly falling under the 5000 mark.

Ygorl · #4 August 24th, 2006, 02:40 AM

No, it's a multiplicative effect. Each point of growth/death raises or lowers province population by 0.2% per month. Also, each point raises or lowers province income (which is directly derived from population, for most provinces) 2% per month.
So, the longer you go, the less you decrease in terms of absolute income.

As far as GoNB, I've never cast it, but I always assumed it moved your scales towards growth? In any case, give it a few turns to have an effect.

quantum_mechani · #5 August 25th, 2006, 02:09 AM

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Ygorl said:
As far as GoNB, I've never cast it, but I always assumed it moved your scales towards growth? In any case, give it a few turns to have an effect.

Nature's Bounty doesn't effect growth scale- just multiplies income based on positive dominion candles in a province.