How to successfully utilize your "Dominion Wall"?

Gandalf Parker · #1 August 25th, 2006, 09:23 PM

Ive purposely played with low dominion. With a stealth race like Pangaea it can help hide you for a few turns longer.

KissBlade · #2 August 25th, 2006, 10:19 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:
Ive purposely played with low dominion. With a stealth race like Pangaea it can help hide you for a few turns longer.

LoL, reminds me of the game Qm picked dom ONE and simply took advantage of Pan's 100 gold temples XD.

Frostmourne27 · #3 August 29th, 2006, 03:35 AM

Interesting. Against the AI, I allways take dominion of at least four (I consider that to be VERY low) and usually take six or seven. I find that that allows me to forget about temples for the early part of the game, and lets me spread a bit of dominion around my teritory, though I've yet to crush anybody without taking a higher dominion or something sneaky (skeptics, stealth preaching, restless worshipers etc). IMHO dominion above seven is useful only as a pop-killing theme, anyone building lots of sacreds, if you KNOW you're fighting pop-killing dominion or other really high dominion, or to dominion kill your opponents. When I play a water nation, I often take a higher than average dominion too, as I find that water nations have rapidly fluctiating dominion, thats either really strong, or really low, and if I'm not paying attention I can easily end up in dire straits, having to scramble madly to avoid the inogmonious lost to the easy AI that took dominion strength 10.

shovah · #4 August 29th, 2006, 08:22 AM

With water nations, when possible i also try to take ceremonial faith, it lets rlyeh have decent preachng defence and atlantis have it very strong.

Frostmourne27 · #5 August 29th, 2006, 05:32 PM

That might work, but I almost allways take turmoil and luck, so I can't (you need order for ceremonial faith don't you?) I find that turmoil gives me more gems, and that turmoil 3/luck 3 is about the same as order 0 no luck. It's alos easier to get those nice underwater heroes... btw, just how strong is ceremonial faith? It's double or something isn't it?

shovah · #6 August 29th, 2006, 05:58 PM

If its the one im thinking of its +2 to your holy level when in friendly dominion, it makes coral queens basically holy 6 priests. Turmoil 3/Luck 3 might net you a few more gems but it also gives you a -21% to income which, along with other things could be used for mages which can search for sites therefore gaining you gems.

Graeme Dice · #7 August 29th, 2006, 07:03 PM

Turmoil 3/Luck 3 is also 42% less income than order 3/misfortune 3.

KissBlade · #8 August 29th, 2006, 07:06 PM

Don't take Turmoil unless you're forced to from your theme or if you're Ermor Death theme. It is by far the most crippling scale to take. The only one worse I think is Drain.

Frostmourne27 · #9 August 29th, 2006, 08:54 PM

Yeah but w/ fortune you can get great events, many of which provide cash. If you hunt around here, I believe some one did some analysis of the two and found fortune 3 / turmoil 3 to give about the same amount. Of course if you're unlucky, it can completely screw up your game. For MP, turmoil probably isn't the best though.