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October 14th, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
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Shouldn't the skills of the Augur advance toward the Augur Elder as he gains in age? If so why would the advancement stop once he is as old as the "Augur Elder"?
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Maybe because he stops his guided training in order to join the army?
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October 14th, 2006, 03:03 PM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
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Maltrease said:
Shouldn't the skills of the Augur advance toward the Augur Elder as he gains in age? If so why would the advancement stop once he is as old as the "Augur Elder"?
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Maybe because he stops his guided training in order to join the army?
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October 14th, 2006, 03:06 PM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
Speaking of Augurs, are these the dreaded Mages of Eldergate? 
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October 16th, 2006, 09:23 PM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
Hello.
I've registered to say that the only thing that keeps me from buying Dominions 3 is the aging feature.
I'm going to continue with Dominions 2 until it can be disabled with patch/mod/hack. I think it's good that it's available, but wish very much it was optional!
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October 17th, 2006, 02:57 AM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
Sry, you can't simply turn it off, its part of the balancing ...
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October 17th, 2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
Yep, no more recruiting piles of sages in some far away province and forgetting about them. I think everyone who found a library did that as soon as they found it, so it's kind of nice in that regard. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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October 17th, 2006, 12:14 PM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
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Yep, no more recruiting piles of sages in some far away province and forgetting about them. I think everyone who found a library did that as soon as they found it, so it's kind of nice in that regard. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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I disagree. Based upon my experience aging is not as bad as not to recruit sages, (unless you took a Death scale perhaps). I still recruit them as much as I can, it is worth it even with old age.
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October 17th, 2006, 12:22 PM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
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Yep, no more recruiting piles of sages in some far away province and forgetting about them. I think everyone who found a library did that as soon as they found it, so it's kind of nice in that regard. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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I disagree. Based upon my experience aging is not as bad as not to recruit sages, (unless you took a Death scale perhaps). I still recruit them as much as I can, it is worth it even with old age.
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Oh, I'm not saying don't use them. I'm saying you can't just set them to research and forget that they exist, you have to check on them once in a while and possibly recruit more when they start keeling over.
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October 17th, 2006, 03:28 AM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
Ah - the "balancing" that thinks that a Crone pretender, who starts 250 or so years into old age, and has no special abilities, is only worth 35 points less than the Great Sage or Master Druid, both of whom have at least semi-useful special abilities and 250 years or so before they get to old age. Or that balances Crone pretenders as being 55 points less than Frost Father or Great Enchantress, both of whom start with _two_ paths, and _good_ special abilities.
Oh yes, aging is helping _so_ much with balance. *mutter growl spit*
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October 17th, 2006, 04:03 AM
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Re: \"Old Age\" system in Dom3 - need some info
I really like the inclusion of an aging system. I'm sure there will be tweaks to it since this is the first implementation.
As someone who favors *long* SP games, I hope for moddability (to raise the onset of old age for some units as I see fit), or at least a more sophisticated implementation, such as:
Increasing the chance of random afflictions for units based on their "age level", so that units which are 52(50) have a very small chance to suffer from an affliction during their Late Winter Age Test, while a 75(50) (guessing because I am not sure what the age levels would be for a (50) unit) unit would have a significantly higher chance of picking up an affliction.
As it is right now, it feels like units which are barely into old age are dying off or just gaining more decrepitude than experience too soon. The penalties associated with age levels are already significant, so the chance for death/afflictions should perhaps be toned down.
As a sidenote, has anyone had unusual or comical results with older heroes like Bartolomeus?
I only have the demo, but to those who have tried long SP (or MP I suppose) games, does the Hall of Fame become a who's who of Pretenders and other long lived units even if those units haven't participated much in battles? (i.e. 0 kills, but they've been around forever)
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