Help Me Take Down a Vastness

Ygorl · #1 February 6th, 2007, 03:16 AM

If you've got their capital you ought to be able to wipe out R'lyehn dominion pretty easily (especially as Marignon!) and kill them that way. Otherwise, between construction and astral buffs you seem to be on a good path towards killing them directly (are they immune to fire? I forget... if not, Incinerate should wipe them out right quick!)

Sandman · #2 February 6th, 2007, 05:06 AM

If you own the capital of R'lyeh, a dominion kill should be possible. Start preaching and building temples anywhere where R'lyeh's dominion is left.

The sailing ability is, IMO, more useful on player-created maps with complex coastlines than random maps, which usually have large, round seas.

Stryke11 · #3 February 6th, 2007, 02:40 PM

So I took them down, in the cheapest way possible. Every turn I would throw chaff sea troops at their seiging force and get turned back. I just did it to keep their conventional forces down. Well, I finally attack with about 200 mostly shamblers and tritons, and I took out everything, even their god, but not the vastnesses. I surrounded the vastnesses and they were just wailing on my guys, but they decided for whatever reason to run away, even though they clearly could have won the battle and my guys were at the breaking point.

Unfortunately for them, I owned all the surrounding provinces. So somehow they got lost and died, I guess.

And now I'm assaulting Pangaea on their island from the sea, Normandy style. Those uber minotaurs are pretty nasty. I think I may play them next...

Manuk · #4 February 6th, 2007, 05:04 PM

yeah. i believe that if they have fatigue there's a higher chance of routing, so sleep could be something to cast against a SC (super combatant). Unless they berserk or mindless.

about the sailing thing marignon could really use a sailing scout as vanheim has. Only to know if it's safe to travel to that faraway land you don't know anything about.

Graeme Dice · #5 February 6th, 2007, 05:58 PM

The only effect fatigue can possibly have on morale checks is that fatigue makes the unit more likely to be hit.

Folket · #6 February 9th, 2007, 09:24 AM

"can possibly"?!?, to say that makes no sense.

I can think of any number of ways to program more direct relations.

llamabeast · #7 February 9th, 2007, 09:28 AM

Uh, I think you might be being a bit pedantic there Folket, it's quite a normal phrase he's using there.

Graeme Dice · #8 February 9th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Folket said:
"can possibly"?!?, to say that makes no sense.

I can think of any number of ways to program more direct relations.

Yes, there's any number of ways that a person could have programmed a direct relation between fatigue and morale. Of course, since Illwinter didn't program such a relation, the only possible effect for fatigue on morale is that the unit will be hit more often.