A couple of q's

jutetrea · #1 May 24th, 2007, 12:37 AM

Hmm, I always forge the forbidden light.. and then never use it. Thought an immortal might get his items back.

Move the user to an adjacent lab province and use returning? Or just fill him up with +penetration and hope for an enslave

Anyone know the horror chance on the forbidden light? Is it like the chalice where it never happens or a lantern where it may not happen all game or some games 10 times?

Micah · #2 May 24th, 2007, 02:21 AM

It's far and away nastier than anything else I've used, although I haven't played around with the Oath Rod of Kurgi or Kurgi's gift. Probably an order of magnitude nastier than lanterns.

K · #3 May 24th, 2007, 01:32 PM

In my experience, it takes about 20 turns of wearing the Forbidden Light to start getting Doom Horrors. At that time, you might be getting up to three Horror attacks a turn.

jutetrea · #4 May 24th, 2007, 02:01 PM

bugger that for a lark. What's the point of the item then? Spend the gems for a short term solution? I'm assuming its a continuous adding of horror marks that are cumulative? I think I have this item in like 6 or 7 of my SP games, thinking its a great deal with +2S2F...and then I've never used it.

MaxWilson · #5 May 25th, 2007, 02:37 PM

Well, that's 20 turns worth of Master Enslaves, and when that's done you can transfer it to another caster. Probably depends upon whether your nation has high-level recruitable astral or fire mages in order to be worth it. Obviously if it's just sitting in your inventory it's not doing you any good.

-Max

Taqwus · #6 May 25th, 2007, 03:20 PM

Horror marks are indeed cumulative.

It -is- possible to beat horrors (although Kurgi's a bit of a tough customer)... and it should be noted that an astral mage worthy of the Forbidden Light should be able to cast Ritual of Returning as well as the in-battle version. The Solar Brilliance effect may also be useful in certain battles, especially when you don't care much about blindness (ex. R'lyeh mindblasts -- prec 100 attacks hit even if firer is blind).

Magebane would help. It'll boost MR (sort of important for when the Eater of Gods shows up -- given his 'save or die' attack), and when you hit, it'll knock the horror unconscious.

Endoperez · #7 May 25th, 2007, 03:34 PM

Cumulative Horror Marks are much, MUCH less severe than they used to be, though. I'm not sure if the "Doom Horror attack every turn" thing can happen without wearing the Forbidden Light for a few dozen turns or something similarly drastic, though.