Mod: Ogre Kingdoms - MA Warhammer Nation - 0.9 minor update

[Aezeal]

IMHO Ogres should be smaller than giants (I'm pretty sure that is how it is in warhammer) and their HP should reflect that (make it 20 not 30)

[zepath]

Bloody brilliant, Sombre.

[Morkilus]

Eh, Dominions giants aren't really that huge. If you want huge, you have the niefels - I don't know much about the Warhammer variety.

[Shovah32]

The warhammer variety, within the warhammer world, a very big. Certainly alot bigger than the ogres.

[Aezeal]

Yeah in warhammer giants are huge at least 5x as strong (in points/costs) as ogres.. but if we give the ogres 30/5 hitpoints there wouldn't be a point so I said something between humans and giants.

In warhammer they are about equal to troll.. dunno how much hp they have in dominions though.

[Sombre]

What do you mean there wouldn't be a point? WH giants translated to dom3 are size 6, not size 4 like the Jotuns. They'll have considerably more hp than 30.

Ogres in WH are also easily three times tougher to kill than humans. They have 3 wounds and 4 toughness compared with 1 wound and 3 toughness. I converted WH ogres to dom3 and gave them size and hp based on this comparison and on simple model size comparison. WH giants will be comparable with /maybe/ Neifels, but not Jotuns - they're in a much higher weight class.

These ogres /are/ smaller than Jotuns, but comparisons between the size and hp of those two units aren't much use. I'm not making WH units by comparing directly with dom3. I want to have my WH mods fit in dom3 and be balanced in dom3, but I'm not really trying to 'integrate' them and base my stuff on vanilla units. If I was, I'd give ogres higher strength than 14 or so - but any more isn't something I can justify, because WH ogres only have str 4, the same as inner circle knights or black orcs. In my mind, that means a gap of 1 or 2 str in dom3 terms is ok, but more than that and I'm ignoring the WH profile.

[Sombre]

Yhetee size preview. Far from finished, I just fancied showing you how my graphics start out - as rough outlines basically.

[Sombre]

I finished off the Yhetee graphic just a moment ago and I realised that the attack sprite did indeed have a certain 'tude about it. So I knocked up a version with more appropriate equipment, for your viewing pleasure. Oh and the finished gnoblar fighter graphic is in there too.