What is abusive ?

[Lord_Bob]

Here is where people really just aren't thinking. Yes, KissBlade is undoubtly doing some sort of wierd AI manipulation, but, and this is a big but, it doesn't Wreck The Game. Tolerance for exploits that Wreck The Game are far worse. For example, people tolerate the stupid "Slave Collar" trick only because most people have the decency to not go crazy with it. 5 blood and B1 is not hard to come by. You can, if you want, raise ARMIES of scouts with these collars. 20-30 scouts, easy. What is that, 100 blood, 400 gold, and 20 mage turns? That's easy. And then they dump it on your main army and wipe out half your mages. Heh, heh. Extremely abused, it would wreck the game. The only reason it hasn't is people understand how ridiciliously cheap it is, so they limit their use of it.

Or the "Vengance of the Dead" retreat bug, that allows any idiot who wants to kill an early SC to do so. Fortunately, not all races can cast it, so you don't have sleeping, defensive pretenders rendered useless. Cause that's what it does.

[vfb]

"Vengeance of the Dead" hurts SC pretenders, not defensive ones. I think it's okay to cast it once at an SC pretender, but if he survives it's unfair to recast it. I think the doubling of the kill count for killing units you already killed once doesn't make sense.

[Edratman]

Potatoman, nicely done. Well written and based on admirable logic, ethics and reasoning.

I don't think that this game will be torn apart by MP exploit users because almost everyone on the forums is friendly, helpful and considerate. I'll acknowledge that there are people who live vicariously through their gaming success but I don't believe that they dominate this game. I attribute that to the fact that the game is a bit too profound for most of those players.

[LoloMo]

SC pretenders have high MR, so you need several castings of Vengeance to work, which costs many gems and high path mages available to cast it.

Unkillable SCs are even more unfair than using Vengeance of the Dead multiple times.