Poison weapons

Digress · #1 March 31st, 2008, 06:59 AM

It also has the added bonus of stripping glamour along with the hitpoints.

Which also doesn't make alot of sense.

Renojustin · #2 March 31st, 2008, 07:25 AM

Screaming and writhing from the pain of the poison just isn't very glamorous.

I was pretty sure that the weapon has to deal at least 1 point of damage for the poison to take effect.

vfb · #3 March 31st, 2008, 09:33 AM

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Renojustin said:
Screaming and writhing from the pain of the poison just isn't very glamorous.

I was pretty sure that the weapon has to deal at least 1 point of damage for the poison to take effect.

No, it doesn't. The poison from arrows affects the unit even when no damage is taken.

Renojustin · #4 March 31st, 2008, 10:07 AM

Definitely seems like a problem to me then; doesn't make sense, and too powerful.

Poison bow archers are awesome enough as it is. If they were supposed to be this powerful, up the poison damage IF it ever gets through, but not if it boinks off your shield or armor to begin with.

calmon · #5 March 31st, 2008, 10:49 AM

Why doesn't make sence? Arrows with small pouches of poison which explodes in clouds after hitting the ground.

Endoperez · #6 March 31st, 2008, 11:18 AM

That'd be like shooting stones with crossbows or something. Slings have -3 precision, and shooting arrows like that should have at LEAST the same malus.

It's even worse for blowpipes, and I'd be willing to pay to see someone blow a water balloon through a straw.

Is the poison #secondaryeffect or #secondaryeffectalways? If it's the latter, the fix can be modded in. If it's the first, it's a bug in regards to ranged weapons and #secondaryeffect.

Sombre · #7 March 31st, 2008, 11:32 AM

It's secondaryeffect afaik.

The theory that the arrows are tipped with poison gas or exploding liquid or something,... well I guess you can explain anything away if you try hard enough. To me that seems really silly though. You might as well say a wizard did it. It's clear that some weapons work that way, like the Skaven poison globes, like poison spit attacks or Ctisian poison slingers,.. but blowdarts, sauromatian arrows, poison daggers etc are obviously poison tipped and logically should need to do at least a point of mundane damage to work.

In gameplay terms it's problematic mainly in terms of modded units with poison ranged weapons, but in basegame it's part of the reason the sauromatian archers are so nuts. If they were required to do at least 1 point of mundane they'd still be great but wouldn't be capable of mowing down heavy infantry like they do now.