Adjudication on a NAP -edited please comment again

[Aezeal]

You will be called oathbreaker regardless of what you do I think. You just need to either make sure the rest of the game agrees with your version of what happened or just ignore it and accept that he calls you that.

[zenphos]

Aaaah, but it is not his opinion I care about. It is the opinion of the forum as a whole.
I would not want my opponent to flood the boards with what an untrustworthy fellow I am and find myself having trouble finding allies in other games. So that is one reason I submitted this question.
The other is while I think I am in the right my view is some what biased and, being honourable arcoscephale, it would be wrong to break any sort of agreement in the game.
Now if I was one of the evil, untrustworthy races like say Mictlan, then I do not think it would bother me so much.

[Aezeal]

Well let me say it like this:

The way you tell it IMHO there would be no NAP, without the confirmation you waited for and did not get I wouldn't consider it a NAP. In my last games there have always been conformations back and forth so everyone knew there was a NAP adn I consider that normal.

The point is that he has interpreted it otherwise and might say the facts are slightly different too. It's hard to give an opinion on the story of only one of the parties and unless his story is identical it will be hard to when he had his say since it will be your word against his.

If you roleplay a very honourable nation you should give him the turn I guess since there is some room for doubt.

Personally I'd never let roleplaying interfer with the results of my game.

NAP breaking isn't forbidden btw, you won't get expelled, it's another part of the game. Personally I'd not do it but..

[zenphos]

I have tried to give as accurate account of the details as I could, and I have PM'ed my opponent with a link to this post and have asked him to give his own version of events.
I can't see how he can dispute the key point though, that is the lack of a confirmation of the renegotiated NAP.
Guess I will wait and see if he responds.
By the way thanks for the input so far.

[Karlem]

At least for me if there isn't a confirmation message there isn't NAP. That's something quite importante you (or him)need to have somehitng to quote and say: this is what I said and here is his agreemnt. Until then nobody has broken a NAP.

I also do not consider that you have to give him another turn: you informed him even without having a NAP (from your point) why should you give him another turn? You are honorable, not stupid .

[Sombre]

I think you had a NAP. He offered a 3 turn NAP and you replied you wanted a 2 turn NAP. Obviously if he is willing to go for a 3 turn NAP he's willing to go for a 2 turn one.

You aren't an 'oathbreaker' though. You made no promises.

People who say stuff like '3 turn NAP?' and assume that you will know exactly what they mean deserve to end up in situations like this though.

[Aezeal]

well Sombre it was clarified later on.

PS Karlem do we have an official NAP in vampirebat? If not we should talk about it

edit: we have a 5 turn NAP I could find in our messages..