Manifestation is overpowerd.

[Argitoth]

Endoperez said:
"Out of the assassination spells, Manifestation is the easiest to defend against" I'd wager.

Once again, another one who responds to this thread not having done any tests.

Randvek said:So... where are the results of your testing?

Do your own. At first you might think your strategy for defending against a manifestation is working. Keep testing it and the manifestation will eventually kill the mage bypassing any guards or summons.

Now if you want to go over the top with a powerful mage casting huge amounts of summons like living fire more than once or having twice as many guards etc, then I don't think the manifestation will be able to get to the commander. However, those mages aren't your every-day recruits.

[Argitoth]

Really, I'm getting tired of debating over these kinds of issues. I won't be playing Dominions for much longer, just finishing up a few games that will end soon.

Good riddance.

Edit: If people would just do some tests before making claims, these debates would go a lot better. You know? I spend a few hours testing things sometimes and then some of you want to come outa nowhere and say "WELL, I think you are wrong because I know everything about dominions." Seriously...

[Argitoth]

If someone said, "Well, I just did some tests and here's where you're wrong." that would be music to my ears.

...and yes I'm going to triple post.

[MaxWilson]

Argitoth said:
If someone said, "Well, I just did some tests and here's where you're wrong." that would be music to my ears.

...and yes I'm going to triple post.

Okay, I tested this. Manifestation is indeed an awesome spell, and it had a high kill rate on the AI commanders. Frequently it bypassed the guards, and even when it did tangle with the guards (it always went for Jotun guards over Gygjas, and Summon Imps worked too) it still beat them and killed the mage. But guards often did work as blockers. Also, mages who could respond with skelly spam seemed to come out fine. So, I don't agree that there's no protection from Manifestation, although obviously if you push your luck and stick around a province where someone is spamming Manifestation you're going to get unlucky sooner or later.

-Max