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				May 16th, 2008, 04:56 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Behemoth? 
 Agree, totally with what NT Jedi, those are 2 examples of summons that could do with there gem cost lowering or preferably more effects for higher gem cost.  3 Behemoths for 20D gems might lure more people into casting it. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 05:02 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Behemoth? 
 Don't compare behemoth with ziz. Ziz might just be the worst summon in the entire game. Behemoth is currently overpriced but it isn't a /total/ waste of gems.
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				May 16th, 2008, 05:50 AM
			
			
			
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 No one was comparing them, we were just listing them as being overpriced. 
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				May 16th, 2008, 07:13 AM
			
			
			
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 Actually, one of my friends makes good use of it when he plays C'Tis. Behemoths + body ethereal are quite hard to stop. |  
	
		
	
	
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 I think that 5 for 20 gems would be the way to balance it 
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 Whoa, five for 20 seems like a steal to me. Maybe at Ench-8.
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 Meh, the thing about behemoths is yeah you can buff them with body ethereal or iron warriors...but then again you can do the same thing with any random elephants you find and they're pretty much as good (by the time moral factors in with elephants, there's a good chance you're gonna lose anyway).  10 death gems are generally worth waaaay more than 100 gold. 
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