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May 21st, 2008, 12:15 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
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Nether Bolts are nice, but they hardly ever hit the Commanders that you want them to hit. When they hit in the middle of an army, they usually only take out a couple of troops. If you are facing a lone SC though, you can spam them with a bunch of mages and hope that a few hit (chance of feeblemind).
And I agree, Shadow Blast is only effective facing a large army. The cost is high, but several cast into a large army can cause devastating damage. Against SCs, it is a waste of gems, since it usually misses badly.
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Many Death nations also have access to either Air or Nature (EA C'tis, Helheim, Lanka come to mind). Aim and Eagle Eyes benefit Shadow Blast/Cloud of Death significantly. Waiting a couple of rounds for them to advance into your chaff and/or skelly spam is also potentially advantageous. Consider that the main advantage of artillery spells is to thin out formations so your troops can gang up and overwhelm defenses.
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May 21st, 2008, 01:08 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
How do Raise Skeletons and Raise Dead compare to each other? I get the rough impression that Raise Dead provides higher HP units and more of them, but you need create some corpses by getting some units killed first.
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May 21st, 2008, 01:45 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
Skeletons also have better attack/defense than Soulless do. If you've got Darkness or something, Skeletons are much better. You're correct that Raise Dead requires corpses, although I think PD corpses work fine.
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May 21st, 2008, 02:21 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
Units killed in that battle also provide corpses for the Soulless. They get better equipment (shield, sword, some armor) if the corpses had high resourcecost.
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May 22nd, 2008, 01:12 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
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They get better equipment (shield, sword, some armor) if the corpses had high resourcecost.
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That is so cool the IW guys bothered to code that. Every day there's some new level of detail I learn about.
I can't imagine how involved the feature list QA was for this product.
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May 22nd, 2008, 01:27 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
Has anyone been able to raise giant soulless on the battlefield?
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May 22nd, 2008, 03:34 AM
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Re: Death Magic on the Battlefield
It's nation-dependent. Giant nations get giant soulless, C'tissians get c'tis and slave lizard undead, Caelum gets those useless, winged-but-not-flying corpses, Lanka gets different types of monkeys, etc etc.
Yes, casting Blade Wind to kill bunch of monkey PD lets you raise the Markata as Soulless Giants.
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