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June 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
Repel mechanic works as said, but mindless units automatically take 1 point of damage from repel. An arch devil repelling dozens of 1-hp dragonflies was a wonderful sight... And surprisingly enough, a horde of morale 12 dragonflies was able to deal several points of damage to the Arch Devil.
Non-mindless dragonflies would probably be the easiest way to test the real probabilities of critical hits, if someone feels like doing that... Here's a mod if anyone wants to count how many hits dragonflies get against a heavily armored unit.
#modname "test"
#selectspell "Swarm"
#researchlevel 0
#end
#selectmonster "Dragonfly"
#mor 30
#end
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June 27th, 2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?
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June 27th, 2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
I agree with the poster who suggests folding this into the FAQ. An "errata" section would be nice to have there, if Edi's ok with it.
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June 27th, 2008, 10:03 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
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Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?
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Well, repel forces a Morale roll, and Mindless beings have exceptionally high Morale.....
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June 27th, 2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
Repel forces a Morale roll *IF* you hit in the normal repel mechanic. "Mindless == automatically take 1 HP damage" is something else entirely.
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June 27th, 2008, 10:13 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
Oh right, I forgot that part of the earlier posts. I'm curious how this affects units like Lobo Guard in prolonged melee. I don't use them a lot, but I hadn't noticed them whittling themselves down, when I do.
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June 27th, 2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
If anyone that posts an addition could include the page number that'd be awesome, I'll go back and edit them in once I get a decent batch. And feel free to add this in wherever, I was hoping for some sort of stickiness, even if it's under the general FAQ. =)
Please post some files if you've got contradictory assertions as well, it'd help to get everything sorted out.
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June 27th, 2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
My correction about regen percentage and afflictions comes from an in-game tip, not the rulebook, actually. I don't know if in-game tip corrections should be in a separate thread--your call, Micah.
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June 28th, 2008, 03:54 AM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
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Repel forces a Morale roll *IF* you hit in the normal repel mechanic. "Mindless == automatically take 1 HP damage" is something else entirely.
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I didn't know it either, but the log file indicated it pretty clearly. No random rolls or anything, just something like "repell negated by mindlessness" and hordes of Dragonflies dying. I tested it by making dragonflies non-mindless, and as I said, they could actually hurt the Arch Devil.
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June 28th, 2008, 06:37 AM
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Re: Lies My Rulebook Told Me
I didn't quite follow what you said about dragonflies and critical hits, but it's worth bearing in mind that the dragonfly bite is AN.
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