autokilled after routing an ashen angel. bug?

Omnirizon · #1 June 30th, 2008, 06:09 PM

the ashen angel was enslaved, according to the replay. the numbers show he was never enslaved, but the animations for being enslaved occur on the replay, and immediately afterwards the message "indies rout" is shown. It is also at that point in the log that "indies rout" is shown.

also, its mysterious that the TO all of a sudden has "1000 morale problems." I'm not sure how the "moral problems" figures into the mechanic, but I've never seen it go from 0 to 1000. Typically it's much smaller.

Additionally, looking over the log I don't see a roll for HA. I've never looked over a log with an HA proc though, so maybe it doesn't show it. The resisted action that occured immediately after the HA was something done by the AA. which is...

very weird. You pointed it out as some magic attack; but what is it? it does 256 dmg whatever it is, but the Ashen Angel never used it before. the fact that it is exactly 256 dmg is unusually coincidental.

Endoperez · #2 June 30th, 2008, 06:16 PM

dmg256 is followed by dmg 11 eff 256. Note the extra space on latter.

I think 'dmgXXX' means that damage and effect XXX are dealt.

Omnirizon · #3 June 30th, 2008, 06:30 PM

ahh. i see.

i also just noticed the animation for enslavement is always shown during attack, whether it occurs or not. and the TO did fail that last morale check. bug might be as PvK points out, that it showed the AA routing at all.

still, does routing during an assissination attempt lead to autokill? also, why didn't he flee off the edge of the field and then be autokilled, like usually happens. (note: i guess you can't see the replay, but in it the TO never fled, he just disappeared the turn after is said "indies rout") And in the log it just shows the TO with zero HP all of a sudden, a bunch of routing checks with -40 autobreak, not sure what negative autobreak means, and then autokills him.

MaxWilson · #4 June 30th, 2008, 07:11 PM

Yep, routing in an assassination is an autokill. I think there's even an in-game between-turns tip about it.

-Max

thejeff · #5 July 1st, 2008, 08:48 AM

It is? I know fleeing from an assassination is death, since there is no where to run, but I thought they had to actually reach the edge of the field to flee, not just be killed instantly.

lch · #6 July 1st, 2008, 10:48 AM

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thejeff said:
I know fleeing from an assassination is death, since there is no where to run, but I thought they had to actually reach the edge of the field to flee, not just be killed instantly.

Yes, it's an autokill. Which becomes an annoying problem to script support mages which are meant to cast some buffs and then retreat - they'll happily run into their own death.

thejeff · #7 July 1st, 2008, 11:06 AM

Yes, I know fleeing an assassination means death. That's not the question.
Do they die (disappear with or without a little puff of blood) as soon as they fail the morale check and start to rout, as suggested earlier in the thread? Or do they rout, try to run off the screen and die because there's nowhere to go, which is what I'd always thought?

Though, going back to the Tomb Oracle, silly question: He didn't have flying did he?

MaxWilson · #8 July 1st, 2008, 11:08 AM

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thejeff said:
It is? I know fleeing from an assassination is death, since there is no where to run, but I thought they had to actually reach the edge of the field to flee, not just be killed instantly.

I have no firsthand knowledge of the distinction. I haven't watched the battle under discussion but if he disappears from the screen that says to me he routed off the edge.

-Max

thejeff · #9 July 1st, 2008, 11:11 AM

I haven't watched it either, but Omnirizon said:

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also, why didn't he flee off the edge of the field and then be autokilled, like usually happens. (note: i guess you can't see the replay, but in it the TO never fled, he just disappeared the turn after is said "indies rout")

Which is the distinction I was making.
Though if he could fly, it would be instant