Repel mechanics. How exactly it works?

[Sombre]

But the repel calculation also uses prot - it doesn't deal 1 point of damage unless it beats prot and it is always capped at a max of 1. Does it use the damage value of the weapon in order to work out of it beats prot though? No idea.

[Endoperez]

Oh, I had forgotten that. In that case, it could be that mindless units are always "hit" in repel, but their protection might save them from the single point of damage.

[ano]

How would you explain the fact that Empoisoner with a skull staff (length 4) was killed by dragonflies very quickly (and no dragonfly died from repel) while archdevil repels and kills all of them?

[Sombre]

The archdevil has far higher attack than the empoisoner, so he's far more likely to succeed in his repel attacks.

[ano]

Emposioner with skull staff: attack 14
Vanjarl with Frost Brand: attack 18

Probably, you're right. Dragonflies have def15 so probably it's not so easy for Empoisoner to hit them.
And what about the stated repel penalty? Do you know how it's calculated? Manual states that there's a penalty -2 for each repel attempt. What is this penalty applied to?

[Digress]

Its a shame that the secondary effects of some weapons don't kick in after a successful repel.

Weapons dripping with poison for example don't "empoison" those attackers that are repelled.

[MaxWilson]

Digress said:
Its a shame that the secondary effects of some weapons don't kick in after a successful repel.

That would certainly make the Stone Sword, Sun Slayer, Shadow Brand, etc., exceedingly strong. Every time you attack Baron X the Gargoyle, he gets a repel roll and you (and the other five squares around you) have to roll MR or turn to stone. Ouch.

-Max

[Sombre]

ano said:
And what about the stated repel penalty? Do you know how it's calculated? Manual states that there's a penalty -2 for each repel attempt. What is this penalty applied to?

It seems, though I am not sure, that this penalty isn't working properly with mindless units.

[Renojustin]

It really doesn't seem like it's working properly, when 20 swarm insects attack the opponent and 20 are killed.