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July 19th, 2008, 09:55 AM
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Yeah which is odd since democrats are clearly much "better" pplz than republicans... they seem to want more equality, work more for nature etc etc as opposed to those who just want to let the world, their neighbours and especially the poor or those in other countires go to hell as long as they get their cash. 
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RAmen, brothers, RAmen (who got that one?  )
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July 19th, 2008, 10:19 AM
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Yeah which is odd since democrats are clearly much "better" pplz than republicans... they seem to want more equality, work more for nature etc etc as opposed to those who just want to let the world, their neighbours and especially the poor or those in other countires go to hell as long as they get their cash.
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It's one of the great mysteries of modern American politics, to me anyway, how "values" became only about sex - abortion, gays, abstinence-only education, etc, while people who care about the environment, poverty, civil rights, social justice, etc. apparently don't have values?
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July 19th, 2008, 10:26 AM
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nicely put thejeff, just what I meant to say
hypocrytes *****in about minor issues while they let the world crumble to dust as long as all gays are cured
/me not understanding this
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
The problem with science becoming more of a religion and less of a tool, is that we can all be scientists, by using the scientific method(s), but not enough of us have a deep enough understanding of the myriad scientific disciplines, or can (which are becoming more and more specialized, constantly), to be able to separate out what is a scientific, proven fact, and what's a theory based on bad evidence by some crackpot with a degree, that happens to have been accepted by the scientific community for a hundred years. Take dinosaurs-how many times, in just the past 30 years, have our accepted cultural views of dinosaurs changed?
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The point about the “render unto Caesar” is not that any of the various Christian splinters followed it before the Enlightenment. The point is that the idea gives an intellectual space for some Christians to accept a separation of church and state. As Tifone points out, it is not universally accepted by all Christians, but it is accepted by many. More important for this discussion, such a separation is accepted as a real possibility by many liberal believers and non-believers.
Many other faiths do not have this concept and some explicitly state the contrary. This does lead to a communications gap for many Westerners trying to understand politics and religion in other parts of the world.
It also explains why some people may be offended by various things in the game while others shake their heads. Some people don’t or can’t separate religion and the rest of their life and may be offended. Others see a massive separation and can not comprehend how another could be offended.
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"Accepted by many" you say, and I read "accepted by the surely many reasonable Christians, which understand that not everybody can be forced to follow their 2000 years old values, even if they personally have the right to do so".
In that, we can agree.
But just think about the many religious leaders crying out and blasting against "the secularism" (which is nothing more than "rendering unto Caesar") and the "cultural relativism" (which is a MODERN RECOGNISED VALUE to every lay State, as they don't accept /one/ religious culture to impose itself on the others).
You see every day on TV what I mean. Those preachers drive masses of millions, which vote what their beloved priest wants, often imposing at the present time, religious values on lay States and to people which have the right not to share them.
So maybe "rendering unto Caesar" isn't something the Christian religion is so good doing in the present. Not that the other main religions are better in this. I just think about Christianity because many see it as "the reasonable religion", while in fact it possesses unnumbered brainwashing and "past-adjusting" media and often fights to deprive the people of the "Gift of Reason" (  ) the Enlightenment bequeathed to us.
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...vote what their beloved priest wants, often imposing at the present time, religious values on lay States and to people which have the right not to share them...
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Quite possibly the single greatest failure of universal Democracy.....
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Yes Jim I agree it is. Expecially because democracy, as all the modern Constituions and the many Charters of Fundamental Rights say, doesn't absolutely mean that "the majority wins". This is "dictatorship of the majority", an abjection of the democracy known even by the ancient Greeks, and is the way some modern countrys work, mine often included.
The real democracy safeguards the minorities and doesn't impose -by violence or by aggressive creation of laws- the values of one culture on the others, expecially on the "grey areas of morality".
So yes, it is a great failure of democracy that the referendums and the "public opinion" are used by the aggressive religious majority to impose its will and culture on everybody in a nation.
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