"MoD+Retreat" defeated w/o killing caster

Foodstamp · #1 July 19th, 2008, 11:47 AM

The spinning plastic butterknife strikes The Foodstamp in the head!
It is mangled!
The Foodstamp's left ear has been slashed off!
The Foodstamp's throat has been slashed out!
The Foodstamp's neck has been badly cut!
The Foodstamp's brain has been mangled!
The Foodstamp is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Foodstamp loses hold of the Iron shield.
The Foodstamp loses hold of the Iron mace.
The Foodstamp gives in to pain.
The Foodstamp falls over.

llamabeast · #2 July 19th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Is that Dwarf Fortress?

Jazzepi · #3 July 19th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Quick, someone throw Foodstamp's corpse in the moat. He's spreading miasma everywhere

Jazzepi

JimMorrison · #4 July 19th, 2008, 10:11 PM

Fine, I will not press the issue if the general consensus is that continued conflict is detrimental in some way.

I just felt that my own concerns were in no way resolved by this. I really wish JK and KO would just change MoD in a way similar to Twan's mod spell.

I've just been extremely uncomfortable with these repeated claims of how "easy" it is to stop the mage from even having the chance to cast twice and retreat.

Just as I am uncomfortable about this portrayal of flying units as "just useful chaff", when most nations have only rather expensive options to get any fliers that are worthwhile in the late game, and can't just go around securing more every couple of small battles the army has.

But, I am sure here is where I get told that my perspective on that is very n00bish and so I can't be expected to have a valid viewpoint to express.

Aezeal · #5 July 19th, 2008, 10:13 PM

/me stabs Jim

JimMorrison · #6 July 19th, 2008, 10:15 PM

< Eats Aezeal's nose off. >

O.O

Foodstamp · #7 July 19th, 2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

JimMorrison said:
Fine, I will not press the issue if the general consensus is that continued conflict is detrimental in some way.

I just felt that my own concerns were in no way resolved by this. I really wish JK and KO would just change MoD in a way similar to Twan's mod spell.

I've just been extremely uncomfortable with these repeated claims of how "easy" it is to stop the mage from even having the chance to cast twice and retreat.

Just as I am uncomfortable about this portrayal of flying units as "just useful chaff", when most nations have only rather expensive options to get any fliers that are worthwhile in the late game, and can't just go around securing more every couple of small battles the army has.

But, I am sure here is where I get told that my perspective on that is very n00bish and so I can't be expected to have a valid viewpoint to express.

Someone said it was easy to counter MOD+Retreat? Do tell.

I am pretty sure people have said it is possible.

chrispedersen · #8 July 19th, 2008, 11:44 PM

wish I could figure out Dwarf Fortress
I really really really want to like it ...

Foodstamp · #9 July 20th, 2008, 12:05 AM

Here is a link to the wiki, it has tutorials and guides on the very first page.

http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Main_Page

BTW, the game was patched a few days ago, so it is uber hotsauce in adventure mode now too

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JimMorrison · #10 July 20th, 2008, 12:18 AM

In the other thread there have to be at least 3 seperate places where K directly stated "the easiest way to counter MoD+retreat is just to kill the caster".

Phrasing varied, of course, but I am only referring to places where the statement was that it was not hard to do if you are a "skilled" player.

But it doesn't matter, as I've been asked to just let the whole thing die, and I agree that since we have an official stance on the subject, and agreement is nearly unanimous that exploiting a bug is unacceptable, then I don't care about the rest, people make wild claims every day.