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July 20th, 2008, 03:15 AM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Jim,
I suck at things.. but if you get a moment, could you test an army with a bunch of phantasm poppers?
these would be something like shambler units, with chi shoes, and void eyes... perhps 5-6 in an army. Void Eyes are supposed to destroy phantasms in range, and blinking around the battlefied.perhaps will get you enough in range.
By the way - I tried a couple of games where wrathful skies cast on the same side as MoD - killed all the phantasms themselves...
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July 20th, 2008, 04:01 AM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Chi shoes? The ones that give Kick? The Sandals of the Crane blink but they're an Artifact.  I'd assume you just meant Winged Shoes, I wonder how effective that would be.
I wonder if a high movement cavalry unit with Stymphalian Wings would do better, getting more hops/turn so you need less of them?
I don't know though, it seems like a bit of a stretch. I mean, talking about not only a sizable investment of gems into a totally nonstandard tactic that you'd never use for anything but warding off MoD, but these guys actually have no other use at all.
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July 20th, 2008, 03:07 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
well, you could you make them mages, and just cast blink.
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July 20th, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Just looks at progress page.
Enchantment now finish when caster leaves battlefield.
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July 20th, 2008, 03:14 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Aw, sadness, I liked that trick. Well, outside of MoD...
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July 20th, 2008, 03:41 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Well thank goodness for that.
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July 20th, 2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
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Aw, sadness, I liked that trick. Well, outside of MoD...
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It's just a minor step towards making the game more conventional. There is still plenty of quirks to make the game stand apart from other strategy games... for now  .
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July 20th, 2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
Naah, Foodstamp. I think making all the spells counterable by a counter-spell, or perfectly balancing all the nations, or giving each path a strong late game summon to balance tarts (instead of giving to some paths good summons, other paths good battlefield spells, another ones good globals... as IMHO is now  - though improvable maybe) would make the game more "conventional".
This is just fixing an issue that was maybe being exploited by some (a few surely, this game has a great, fair community), and being annoying to the majority 
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July 20th, 2008, 06:00 PM
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Re: \"MoD+Retreat\" defeated w/o killing caster
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Micah said:
Aw, sadness, I liked that trick. Well, outside of MoD...
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It's just a minor step towards making the game more conventional. There is still plenty of quirks to make the game stand apart from other strategy games... for now .
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Yes, it is a strategy gaming convention to remove egregious bugs that not only completely violate rules intended by the developers but also cheapen the spirit of the game, and fracture the community.
How dare they be so darned conventional?
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