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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Death vs. Fire bless

Death Weapons from Death 9 only affects melee weapons. Improved affliction chance from D9 (350%) works for melee, missile, magic and perhaps other sources of damage as well if there are any. I'm not sure about fire shield.
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Default Re: Death vs. Fire bless

the fact that the D9 damage is AN synergizes well with the increased affliction chance though. if they are protted to hell, then you might get the AN damage through, if they are MR to hell, then you might get normal damage through, either way, you can probably get some afflictions through.

and even with minimal damage infliction, if you start getting some afflictions on, anything becomes a lot less of a threat.

wonder how F8D9 might stack up to F9W9, especially considering the gain in design points. something with higher armor and low defense, that wouldn't benefit from the weak effect of water.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 05:45 PM
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Dammit you guys! I JUST started an EA game, and now you've got me all curious to try Kailasa. Maybe I'll do some SP tinkering to work it out.....

Was just playing with pretenders a bit - I do think N4 is pretty useful for Kailasa. Though, I suppose you could just plan to mass buff with Ethereal/Luck by the time it really matters.

Also, their recruitable anywhere sacred, is not the archer, so this somewhat complicates the issue. While I'd agree that the Death bless is still very viable for them, the fact that most of your sacreds would be full time melee, kind of changes the rest. I was looking at a Master Lich with 6A/9D/4N which seemed pretty viable as far as retaining decent scales as well.

However, overall it seems like you are best off trying to use blockers to eat arrows. That being the case, the Air could be dropped altogether, to give them a bigger Nature bless which could be enough to keep the archers up (you should have at least some protective buffing going on before things get really hairy), and also provide a lot more benefit to the melee.


Okay, I'm getting carried away! To sum up, yes I agree that Kailasa is a good example of Death potentially being better than Fire.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 05:46 PM
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In my first MP game I chose a pretender with D10 (as Eriu) in hopes of leveraging the affliction bonus on Rituals with the caster wearing the Shroud of the Battle Saint (seeking arrow, leprosy) and for the additional penetration my pretender would get casting undead mastery. The game was great fun but I didn't seem to see the dramatic D10 affliction multiplier I expected.

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