Heroes (wishful idea)

[Endoperez]

Foodstamp said:
Something else you should know about #onebattlespell.

If you assign a #onebattlespell to a commander and he has the paths to cast the spell naturally, he can cast the spell throughout the battle even if the spell has not been researched.

For instance, if you gave an air 3 commander #onebattlespell for Thunderstrike. He could cast Thunderstrike throughout the battle from month one on, even though the nation had not researched evocation yet.

I'd just like to point out that this doesn't work out quite like Foodstamp thought.

First, the spell his caster was casting was researchlevel 0, school -1 when it was cast repeatedly.

Second, it was a summon spell. In at least some cases, #onebattlespell targets the caster. Understandably, casters Thunder Striking themselves dead before battle starts and you can see what is happening can be frustrating. I'm not sure when this happens, but I suspect no viable targets being in range is one option.

It can still be great tool, but it seems like I won't be able to use it to create a hero that could cast Petrify from the turn he showed up, even once in battle (unless I want him to petrify himself).

[Xietor]

In the Throne of Heroes, the Middle Age update to WH 1.8, one of the Caelum Heroes casts grip of Winter at the start of each battle. Yes, the Yeti! He is always accompanied by icy winds
and snow. brrrr.

It works and has been tested. And it works from turn one.
Summoning spells do autocast for zero fatigue the entire fight
with #onebattlespell, but i find it is overpowered to have monsters spammed at zero fatigue the entire battle.

[Endoperez]

Oh, was it you or someone else that used RITUAL summon spells as #onebattlespells? Those had mist-type lasting effect if I understood the situation correctly; they kept summoning each turn.

[JimMorrison]

Endoperez said:

I'd just like to point out that this doesn't work out quite like Foodstamp thought.

First, the spell his caster was casting was researchlevel 0, school -1 when it was cast repeatedly.

Second, it was a summon spell. In at least some cases, #onebattlespell targets the caster. Understandably, casters Thunder Striking themselves dead before battle starts and you can see what is happening can be frustrating. I'm not sure when this happens, but I suspect no viable targets being in range is one option.

It can still be great tool, but it seems like I won't be able to use it to create a hero that could cast Petrify from the turn he showed up, even once in battle (unless I want him to petrify himself).

Well if the spell has a Range 100, shouldn't that pretty well resolve the issue? And you can make a new version of whatever spell just for that unit, that has a longer range, can't you? Though if there is some other predilection towards self targeting, then I don't know what to say - other than only use offensive spells if you can make the caster immune to them.

[Taqwus]

And don't stand next to 'Maleval the Magnificent Meteor Magnet'...

[MaxWilson]

When I tried it, #onebattlespell "Magma Eruption" failed to give my units the ability to cast Magma Eruption. Foodstamp said he was using custom spells with researchlevel 0 and no school assigned; I don't think you can do this with normal spells without modding them first.

-Max

[Endoperez]

Did the units cast Magma Eruption at themselves or at the enemy? It'd be pretty simple to

#newspell
#copyspell "Magma Eruption#
#end

#selectspell [original magma eruption]
#school -1
#researchlevel 0
#end

if the trick worked for offensive spells.

[Edratman]

I've tried wind guide as number 1 battle spell and it didn't cast. Of course there are multiple issues, first being the gem requirements and the second being the research issue.

I didn't bother trying to figure it out and just deleted the command line.

[MaxWilson]

Endoperez,

Yes, I expect that probably would have worked, but I was testing it out for a newbie who wanted to mod his pretender up to 100 paths (on the theory that what he was really after was interesting spells for his pretender) and I didn't want to get into spell modding. Also, at the time I didn't know exactly how Foodstamp had done his mods.

Anyway, if anyone does that and has it work (so you can cast Magma Eruption or Thunderstrike, etc., from turn 1) post back here. I probably won't try it soon but maybe I will.

-Max