Trample balance discussion

[Xietor]

Bandar Log does not have good national troops?

Are you mad? Or have you just never played Bandar Log? Do you know what a Mandaha is? It is one of the best summons in the game. I have spent 100s gems wishing for them before. And they have many many other less expensive but very good national summons.

I would check out Baalz guide to Bandar Log as he touches on most of them.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Xietor

Are you mad? Or have you just never played Bandar Log? Do you know what a Mandaha is? It is one of the best summons in the game. I have spent 100s gems wishing for them before. And they have many many other less expensive but very good national summons.

I would check out Baalz guide to Bandar Log as he touches on most of them.

That's a national summon and a commander/mage/SC, not a troop by any definition. As for the troop summons, you even refer to them in the post I quote as national summons.

If you aren't claiming that BL's recruitable troops are strong then I'm not disagreeing with you. No need to act like an *******.

[Xietor]

Oh sorry then, we are talking 2 different things. They have very powerful national summons.

Their castle bought troops are good as well. their sacreds put heart companions to shame. And cost less gold and resources. And bandar log gets 80 free design points(2 heat).

My only point, perhaps poorly made, is a nerf to elephants would imo adversely affect arcos the most.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Xietor

There castle bought troops are good as well. their sacreds put heart companions to shame.

You've said a couple of times how bad they are.

But I remember you saying a while back that MA Arco was one of the better nations precisely because they have heart companions.

Have you just changed your mind, or am I misremembering?

[Xietor]

I think i once said Heart Companions can be good with an f9e4 bless. And if they got design points like Bandar Log or caelum, perhaps arcos could afford a bless. But they cant.

That conversation was in the context of what could kill vans prenerf. and people were throwing out various ideas. Heart Companions with a bless was mine. If I am not mistaken Tuidy, who never lets anything lie without a test, proved me wrong. And they turned out to be inferior even with a f9e4 bless. Shrug.

[JimMorrison]

LOUD NOISES!


I agree that 6 sizes are a bit restrictive in gradation. Though it does seem as if the best way to tune the power of recruitable tramplers, is a size reduction of any trampler that is size 6 currently, down to size 5. Also, perhaps a small increase in resource cost, to slow down availability.

Though ultimately, I think the main problem is just Hinnom. They simply have so many strengths, that the chariots really stick out as unnecessary in general.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

LOUD NOISES!

Oh, that reminds me. Elephants used to have a really, REALLY annoying sound. Then Ballbarian saved our ears with his Mod Sound Pack.