Possble to resist eye shield?

vfb · #1 January 16th, 2009, 06:15 AM

Thanks Sombre! I don't know where I got that idea from, about having to actually hit the shield. But it's totally wrong! I tested with attack-30 mr-1 units against a def-10 unit and they lost an eye on every single hit. I tested with attack-1 mr-1 units against a def-20 unit and they lost an eye on every single miss.

So every melee attack on a unit who is wearing an Eye Shield always causes eye loss if the attacker fails his MR check.

Sorry Slobby, my original post was wrong.

JimMorrison · #2 January 16th, 2009, 08:06 AM

I think you got that idea from the lengthy discussion of Eye Shields in the early stages of the Kingmaker thread, where the anecdotal conclusion was that you might have to actually hit the shield to gain the affliction.

Is interesting, as a straight MR check, it's more of something to pass on as anti-SC gear, I was under the impression it was quite potent as that goes, but against 20+ MR it should rarely be effective.

Sombre · #3 January 16th, 2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vfb

So every melee attack on a unit who is wearing an Eye Shield always causes eye loss if the attacker fails his MR check.

It certainly means they're strong against normal units on a high defence thug, like one of the van or sidhe ones.

Stavis_L · #4 January 16th, 2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Is interesting, as a straight MR check, it's more of something to pass on as anti-SC gear...

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Originally Posted by vfb

I agree it's not spectacular as an anti-SC device, but if it's an extended battle between two combat SCs, once it triggers, there goes your defense and attack...

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Originally Posted by Sombre

It certainly means they're strong against normal units on a high defence thug, like one of the van or sidhe ones.

I think the question boils down to whether you'd rather (once you hit const. 4) have a vine shield or an eye shield for the same cost in N gems.

BTW, disregarding the magic effect, they're both 0 enc, 5 def, but the eye shield is 15 prot vs. 12 on the vine shield (FWIW).

I think for most purposes (thugs/SCs) the vine shield wins, but occasionally if I'm especially N gem rich, I'll forge an eye shield for an important caster.