OT-Star Trek Nemesis

[David E. Gervais]

Hi, I just thought I'd share a link with you for a great site.
Five Minute Nemesis.. is a porrody of the movie that is short and sweet.

Note: If you haven't seen the movie and don't want to get spoiled, go to the main site 5MV and browse through the other '5 min' parodies!

Cheers!

[ December 16, 2002, 15:06: Message edited by: David Gervais ]

[Jmenschenfresser]

Well, I must add that I enjoyed the dark atmosphere of the movie. Perhaps the cheesiest part of the film was Troy's telepathic scenes, but honestly, there are few scenes throughout the entire series where I thought her parts as a empathic or telepathic (whatever) weren't slightly silly.

Ok, but I was hoping for something massive. I was hoping to have the battle escalate into something really world destroying. Fleets of ships in battle. An invasion of earth. The planet destroying weapon, or whatever it was, has been done (Starwars), and at least in that movie, the deathstar was seconds away from firing....here it is seconds away from destroying the enterprise, which would be tragic I guess, but nothing devastating to me as a viewer.

Naw, I saw Ebert trashing it, and while I don't agree with his blind criticism, I do agree that the movie didn't push the envelope. It is a different flavor of Star Trek, but that is all.

SPOILER******
Yes, data dies, but that is the least they could do to make the movie mean something.

[Desdinova]

Originally posted by Kamog:
Picard ramming the Scimitar was a surprise - I thought maybe he was going to use the Picard Maneuver...

he would have been unable to use this maneuver as the warp engine was taking offline in the original attack in the nebula.

[Kamog]

Originally posted by desdinova:
he would have been unable to use this maneuver as the warp engine was taking offline in the original attack in the nebula.

Desdinova, you are absolutely correct! I couldn't remember how exactly the Picard Maneuver worked, so looked it up, and as you said, the warp engines are needed to do it.

The Picard Maneuver is named after Captain Jean-Luc Picard, who devised it while he was in command of the U.S.S. Stargazer NCC-2893.

It was while crossing the Zeta Maxia star system in 2355 that the Stargazer was attacked without warning by a Ferengi Marauder vessel. In this combat situation Picard was present with a number of options; he could have launched a frontal attack, but this was risky since his ship was already badly damaged by his adversary's powerful plasma weapons. The alternative was to retreat, but Picard realized that the increased maneuverability afforded Constellation-class ships by their additional warp nacelles gave him a tactical advantage. The Stargazer's sensor scans also revealed a chink in the enemy's armor; the Ferengi Marauder appeared no to have the ability to detect objects moving at faster-than-light speeds.

The Stargazer was positioned about nine million kilometers from the attacking vessel, and since light travels at roughly 300,000 kilometers per second, Picard calculated that it would take at least 30 seconds for the light generated by his ship to traverse the distance between them; the image seen aboard the Ferengi vessel was therefore always 30 seconds old. The Stargazer engaged its warp drive and accelerated faster than light, but because of the enemy's sensor deficiency they would not be able to see the Federation ship's moving for another 30 seconds. After 15 seconds the Stargazer had moved within firing range, and because of its proximity to the Ferengi Marauder the light from its current position reached the enemy while the light from its old position was still en route, and so to the Ferengi, it appeared to be in two places at once. In effect, the enemy vessel saw a second Stargazer appear, while the first seemed to remain in its original position.

The Ferengi Marauder never witnessed the warp jump of the Stargazer vessel as, less than 20 seconds into the maneuver, it was destroyed from point blank range by the Federation vessel. This tactic was so effective that it became required reading for students at Starfleet Academy.

[gregebowman]

Overall, I enjoyed Nemesis. Much better than Insurrection. But it was supposed to be the script of a trekkie, someone who supposedly had watched ST:TNG enough to want to write a script? I think he missed a few episodes.

First of all, although it was nice to to see Wesley Crusher at the wedding reception/ceremony, why was he in a Star Fleet uniform? The Last I saw, he had either resigned from Star fleet or had gone awol to become a Traveller. Unless Picard had some pull to make Wesley in some sort of inactive reserve status, or something like that.

I don't think any Federation scanner is powerful enough to pick up positronic signals from a disassembled droid from several light years away. If it had been a factory or a whole colony of Data-like droids, I could understand. But not one single android. What I want to know is where did Shizon find B-4? If there was any known labs of Data's creator(sorry, can't remember his name), then you would think Data would have at least known about them, let alone be in the data banks. It just didn't make any sense to me.

The lack of mention of the Tal'Shar (sorry, don't know how to spell it) is another thing that was a sore point for me. Even if the Romulans go through such coups every so often, you would think that that particular intelligence section would be above all of that policital stuff. They're almost like the old Russian political officers, in that they enforce their interpretation of "The Romulan Way". Maybe the DVD with the deleted scenes/outtakes will explain some of these issues. Too bad Nimoy wouldn't participate in the film, but he's done with acting and is into photograpy.

The darkness of the film didn't really bother me. I just found it hard to understand the science of the new weapon that got the Enterprise in an uproar. They kind of glossed over that.

I was totally surprised by Data's death. I never even heard a rumor. I knew Spiner was getting tired of the role, but I didn't even guess at this ending. At least the whole world knew when Spock was to be killed off at the end of Kahn. Of all of the characters to be killed off, I just wish it hadn't been Data.

One Last thing. How can Worf go from being the Federation ambassodor to Klingon, back to a weapons/security officer? I mean, after being an ambassodor, you would have thought they would have given Worf command of his own ship? Going back to his old post without a word of explanation I thought was irresponsible. It just didn't make sense. I guess there's only so many ways of accidently being in the neighborhood when the movie starts.

[ZeroAdunn]

I personally enjoyed the different feel of the space battles in nemesis. The CGI has greatly improved too. The Cinematography was great. Especially the opening sequences, had a very different feel from the previous star trek films.

The very dark look of the film was very nice. And for once a captain talked a good game, but for nothing. It usually seems they either talk or fight, not both...

[Desdinova]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
One Last thing. How can Worf go from being the Federation ambassodor to Klingon, back to a weapons/security officer? I mean, after being an ambassodor, you would have thought they would have given Worf command of his own ship? Going back to his old post without a word of explanation I thought was irresponsible. It just didn't make sense. I guess there's only so many ways of accidently being in the neighborhood when the movie starts.

i thought Worf was only the ambassador during the season finale of STTNG. since that future never happened he would still be part the crew of either ds9 or the enterprise. now thinking of it was that also something done on season finale of ds9 also? if so then i agree with gregebowman.