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Old December 17th, 2002, 05:12 AM
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I didn't know that... I thought "lady" was polite. How do they wish to be called?
Women is a good starting point. If they're real picky, they want to be called womyn, pronounced the same in American English, just doesn't contain the word men inside.

A lady is something delicate who you open a door for, you know car doors, theatre doors, etc. Just not the doors to the work place, political doors, door to your social club, etc.

'Course when a group(gaggle?, herd? flock?) of womyn arrive, the little evil person inside me has to be bound, chained, gagged and sat upon to prevent him from makeing me say, "Aww, who let the skirts in here?"

I would say that perhaps you experience may be a little narrow on this point. I know and have known women that were not at all as you have described here, but they were ladies in every sense of the word. Some were powerful and independent, others were proud. Some were just plain stubborn, but they were all ladies.
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Old December 17th, 2002, 05:26 AM
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I must have been brought up wrong, then. I was taught to open doors out of respect, not sympathy (not the word I want, but can't think of it tonight). And to open them for both men and women--out of respect. Guess my parents failed again...
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Old December 17th, 2002, 05:53 AM
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You can also do the "Player has 100% of tech areas researched"

That would be pretty transcendant, I think.
You could even toss in a new tech area, "transcendance" that requires all other techs maxxed out as a prerequisite.
SJ, yes that would be pretty close to transcendence. Some games, like Civ, do require all just about all the techs for the "builder" victory (spaceship to Alpha Centauri), but some, like Alpha Centauri, have some techs outside the transcendence beeline (quite a few of the late game military techs are excluded). For SE4 I think some of the later weapons techs wouldn't really be necessary for 'transcendence.' Then it would be fun to have some kind of insanely expensive 'facility' (temple? sanctuary?)where your race transcends. Hmm...considering the way this game works, I'll bet this kind of thing could be modded...(although I doubt I have the expertise to do it myself).

On the topic of "ladies," I think we're running into regional (and even national) cultural differences. I imagine that in the southeastern United States, and most of Europe, lady is a term of respect (like Signora in Italy, Madame in France, and perhaps even Lady in Great Britain). In the northeastern US, on the other hand, and especially in New York, lady is usually attached to some rather colorful expression like "hey lady, get your #$%$ cat off my new car" So, in my part of the world, Ms. is the proper direct form of address, and women is preferable to ladies as the general term.

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Old December 17th, 2002, 06:16 AM
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I would say that perhaps you experience may be a little narrow on this point. I know and have known women that were not at all as you have described here, but they were ladies in every sense of the word. Some were powerful and independent, others were proud. Some were just plain stubborn, but they were all ladies.
Oh I've met these, they don't mind the terms lady, ms, ma'am. And they don't mind an off color joke in the lunch room. Go with their husband to eat at Hooters. et cetera

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I must have been brought up wrong, then. I was taught to open doors out of respect, not sympathy (not the word I want, but can't think of it tonight). And to open them for both men and women--out of respect. Guess my parents failed again...
Me too, I always hated in school when someone let the door slam in my face in a crowded hallway.

I just made sense to me to hold it, look over your shoulder, and wait for the next person to grab it.

The concept seemed lost on just about everyone else.
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Old December 17th, 2002, 06:24 AM
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I would say that perhaps you experience may be a little narrow on this point. I know and have known women that were not at all as you have described here, but they were ladies in every sense of the word. Some were powerful and independent, others were proud. Some were just plain stubborn, but they were all ladies.
I've meet these, they don't mind the terms lady, ms, ma'am. And they don't mind an off color joke in the lunch room. Go with their husband to eat at Hooters. et cetera
Um…..Not the ones I had in mind, but yes they would be ladies too. It would be easier to say which people were not ladies. And some ladies are more lady-like than others. My point was that a lady did not have to be overly feminine or meek and mild of disposition to be a lady. Some ladies would run you over and leave you in the dust if you paused to open a door. On the other hand, some that would wait until the door had been opened for them are no kind of lady that you would bring home to meet your mother.
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I am sure I remember another post along these same lines, but can't remember the title.

I orginally got my wife hooked by playing hotseat games together and slowly introduced her to Space Empires. She enjoyed it cause we could beat up the AI together and we didn't have to fight each other, never a good idea for a happy marriage.

She normally plays a Peaceful race and I'm the agreesive one. But in her second PBW Game, she has turned the tables and started destorying a race cause the other Empire "Didn't reply to either of my requests for a treaty and I asked them 3 times".
Since then I've ensured I have replied to her every communication.
In Bad form, the player (who is staying nameless) then quit because he couldn't take the heat.

Women - No.
Girl - OK
Lady - Good
Princess - Bonus points.

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