PBW ethics, opinions please.

dogscoff · #1 January 10th, 2003, 06:27 PM

Ruatha: The thing about these "exploits" & "cheats" is that it very much depends who you're playing against. Some ppl might not mind tech sharing (I don't- I also practise it) or turtling (it would be very credible in rp games like the history of the galaxy for example). It just depends who you're up against. Maybe some of these malfadorica entries need to be altered to reflect that.

BTW, I was the one who added the turtling entry.

[ January 10, 2003, 16:30: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

geoschmo · #2 January 10th, 2003, 06:47 PM

I have no problem with tech sharing in principle. I don't consider it cheating or gamey or unbelievable. It's just boring.

It speeds the game up to the inevitable end game too fast IMHO. But then some people like that.

In my ideal universe noone would trade tech, and that is why we pressed Malfador for the option to disallow it at game setup. So that it can be disabled.

I prefer that the results of the game depend on my own strategy and tactics, not of the neighbors that I happen to start next to. If you happen to be starting next to Dogscoff who loves to trade tech you are going to have a huge advantage over the guy who happens to start next to me. You and the other guy could be completely equal in skill, and even in the political side of it, but if you are next to a old fuddy duddy like me that doesn't want to trade you won't be able to until you meet some others.

Geoschmo

dogscoff · #3 January 10th, 2003, 06:50 PM

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If you happen to be starting next to Dogscoff who loves to trade tech you are going to have a huge advantage over the guy who happens to start next to me.

Actually, it won't be that huge an advantage because I suck at multiplayer

geoschmo · #4 January 10th, 2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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If you happen to be starting next to Dogscoff who loves to trade tech you are going to have a huge advantage over the guy who happens to start next to me.

Actually, it won't be that huge an advantage because I suck at multiplayer

Well, I didn't say you would have an advatage. I said the guy starting next to you sponging tech off of you would have the advantage.

[ January 10, 2003, 16:56: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

tbontob · #5 January 10th, 2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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If you happen to be starting next to Dogscoff who loves to trade tech you are going to have a huge advantage over the guy who happens to start next to me.

Actually, it won't be that huge an advantage because I suck at multiplayer
Well, I didn't say you would have an advatage. I said the guy starting next to you sponging tech off of you would have the advantage.

Oh-oh!

Arkcon · #6 January 10th, 2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:
I have to say I'm not fully in agreement with the tech sharing article. I am opposed to the use of any exploits or gamey tactics in multiplayer games with ppl who object to them, but I don't think tech sharing is either of those things; it's just a logical way of optimising your output with a neighbour. I'd be interested to see what everyone else thinks.

It is not an objection of mine

CNCRaymond · #7 January 10th, 2003, 07:27 PM

You want to talk about ethics at PBW huh? Well lets just say that those who know the exploits use them to their advantage. The EB exploit being the most popular. Then the TDB weapon bug, and let us not forget about those who have hacked the game.

I gave up playing PBW games back in September after being told that a player in a game I was in was using the EB exploit. Sure as ****, he was, and that just ruined the game. But instead of making big deal about it, I said nothing. Now that I know how to do it, I feel that if I play, I would be tempted to use it, so I don�t play. I�ll wait for the bug to be fixed.

Ethics, an ethical person would not use a known exploit -or- as I like to refer to them, a cheat. Not that I am accusing any one, it is just that there is no reason to play a game with people who do not have ethics.