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Old January 30th, 2003, 06:39 AM
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Promote vegetarianism. It takes far less power to produce fruits and vegetables than it does to produce an equal supply of nutrieants in beaf / pork / chicken.
Most of the land used to graze cattle on is useless for other farming because of low nutrient and water levels.

Further, humans are meant to eat meat, and can only survive without eating meat by eating a huge amount of the few vegetables that contain the amino acids we can't synthesize.

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Get rid of SUVs!!!!
You are aware that there are perfectly legitimate reasons to own them?

You do not want to be around me when I am on a diet high in vegtables. Give me meat and grain.
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Old January 30th, 2003, 07:15 AM
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"Let’s note a few points here. Hydrogen is the energy in gas oil and coal..."
Not really -- the chemical bonds are. Breaking or forming chemical bonds creates energy.
H2 cars sounds cool, but the costs would be massive... building a whole new energy infrastructure while maintaining the gas one (for late adopters) woudl be much expensive.
Nevertheless, I like the idea of fuel cell cars.
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Remember when cold fusion was announced by Pons and Fleischmann? Everybody was so excited! People thought that we'll just put a small cold fusion reactor in each house, and we'll have lots of cheap power. We'll put cold fusion reactors in cars and we'll no longer need to use fossil fuels. Then there was that big controversy when the cold fusion experiment couldn't be successfully replicated in other labs. Some people thought that it was a consipiracy by the big petroleum corporations to suppress the discovery in order to protect their industry. Haven't heard anything about those guys for years now.
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Just read an article on General Motors new concept 'Hy-wire'. This is the first link that google provided: http://www.time.com/time/2002/invent...ra_hywire.html
It really impressed (the article I've read had many more details) me. And they are now working on fuel cells being able to provide enough energy to drive 500 km without refuelling. Think how much further you can go with your car's full tank?
Everything is programmable and they indicate that the car may become a sportscar! It would be very interesting to try an electric sports car
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Wow that's a lame web site.
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I expect we could both produce large quatities of accurate data supporting either position on vegetarianism. Most of mine would come from a book that promotes, “The Sun Food Diet”. It works for Pooh Star who has maintained her lighter size for about a year now. I concede this is only one example and that I thoroughly enjoyed the hamburger I had on Sunday.

Yes I’ll concede there are good reasons for some people to use an SUV. I have a tough time believing it is more than 10 percent of the current owners.

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