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				How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		One thing I notice is that if I bump up, say, my race's ship defence ability (10 percent, 15 percent, whatever) it never does show up in-game under the racial abilities when you right-click a ship to view its stats. It of course shows bonuses from on-board items such as ECM and some of the other racial bonuses but not such things as attack or defence bonuses (by race). 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		No. It should show them under the "Abilities" tab for your ship, as "Racial Trait: +3% to Ship Attack" etc. 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		That's just it--the abilities I supposedly have don't show in that tab. (Does it have anything to do with the fact I'm playing a TDM game vs. computer opponents?) 
 
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No. It should show them under the "Abilities" tab for your ship, as "Racial Trait: +3% to Ship Attack" etc. 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		It shouldn't. Post the savegame file? 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Sounds to me like you really don't have the abilities you think you bought, for whatever reason. 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		How do I open one of these emp files? 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Hmm, I would but it says file uploading isn't allowed here. If you have an e-mail address I can send it to you personally and you can have a look for me. 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Go to the main Intel Forums page, then go in the first forum (Mods/Scenarios Uploads). You can upload files in there. 
 
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				Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Thanks. So I checked the saved empire and sure enough it shows the 25 percent ship defence bonus I chose for characteristics. But that number sure doesn't show up in the abilities tab for a ship when I click it. 
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Go to the main Intel Forums page, then go in the first forum (Mods/Scenarios Uploads). You can upload files in there. 
 
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