How happiness works? (answer is here)

[Asmala]

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
From Asmala:

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Every +5% in Happiness causes -0,1% and every -5% in Happiness causes 0,1% change in anger level.

Sounds like you tested this thoroughly but that ratio sounds awfully low to me. Raising your happiness characteristic to 20% would not even come close (only.4%) to counter-acting the 2% natural anger increase of alien races. Seems modifying your your happiness upward would be a waste of points, yet it has always paid dividends for me.

Perhaps I am reading you wrong; my experience says its better than this.

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You're reading perfectly right and I agree, the ratio is very low. You can test it: even if you have 150% in happiness you're own people still become indifferent.

I made another test with 250% in happiness. The result was that my people became jubiliant in 11 turns. 2% (natural decrease) - 3% (race bonus) = -1%. 11 turns -> 25% - 11 * 1 = 14 -> jubiliant.

[Grandpa Kim]

I did some testing myself and came up with substantially the same results as Asmala. Using v.1.84 and keeping all factors default except happiness here is what happened.

Happiness setting_________Drop to indifferent date

100%___________________2400.3
105%___________________2400.5
110%___________________2400.5
115%___________________2400.5
120%___________________2400.5
125%___________________2400.5
150%___________________2400.5

using v.1.78

110%___________________2400.5

It looks like this Asmala is right, and this is the way its always been, yet it does seem to make a difference in the game. Seems awfully wimpy but it does work when combined with all other factors. Remember, this small bonus/penalty acts each and every turn.

[orev_saara]

I'd just like to say that this thread makes me feel very buddhist. How does Happiness work?...

[Fyron]

I don't think this is how it always worked...

[Asmala]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I don't think this is how it always worked...

I don't know how it worked but I'm absolutely sure now it works like I told.

[Grandpa Kim]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I don't think this is how it always worked...

True, I did only test the two Versions, but within my games, populations seem to be reacting the way they always have. Just my empirical opinion.