OT: Alien Contact

[Ruatha]

IF > I totally agree on you with the God issue, hovewer I've discussed this with many of my christian friends and the discussions never lead anywhere, except as a social interaction.

But over to the Speed of Light.
If information can travel faster than the speed of light (And that was also belived impossible not long ago) why can't we someday find a way to make matter travel faster than light?

I know that currently the accpted theories don't allow it, but also that without string theory we can't make our theories fit together. And to prove string theory experimental will prove a real challange.

[ February 27, 2003, 08:54: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I say, it will continue to be discussed as long as we want to.

I think I ticked a few people off. I got 4 more Ratings, and my average dropped by .05 points.

Man, at this rate you gonna end up without any of those neat little stars......
Look at it this way: The less stars you have the most truthfull to yourself you are.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Taera:
makes me think and i agree with you desdinova. if aliens could have avoided the genetical will of people to spit into their neighbour's soup (quote from somewhere) - or put his head on lance, if its Dark Age - their advancements could have went much faster and in a way different way. (yea right)

Nah, I don't think they would had advanced at all without wars. If you look into our history you'll see that the ALL tech advancements have been fueled, inspired, financed, impulsed, pushed, used by the military.
Tech never advanced as fast as in WW2, and after that the cold war gave us from the Space shuttle to the CD player going through microwave technology and stealth composite materials.

A civilization without wars wouldn't have gone farther than collecting fruits form wild trees.
That's why I'm convinced that if there is an alien civilization, and if they actualy make it here, its not gonna be pretty.

[dogscoff]

Man, at this rate you gonna end up without any of those neat little stars......
Look at it this way: The less stars you have the most truthfull to yourself you are.

4 stars is the optimum value. I very carefully and deliberately maintain 4 at all times. I don't want 5.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Aloofi:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I say, it will continue to be discussed as long as we want to.

I think I ticked a few people off. I got 4 more Ratings, and my average dropped by .05 points.

Man, at this rate you gonna end up without any of those neat little stars......
Look at it this way: The less stars you have the most truthfull to yourself you are.

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The fewer stars I have, the less I care about the rating. Also, you need to be pissed off from time to time. Anger is an emotion, and it needs to be expressed the same as other emotions do. Keeping any emotion pent up for too long leads to psychological disorders. Sometimes this can even lead to physical disorders (like ulcers, heart attacks, strokes, etc.), as emotions are really on their fundamental level a balance of chemicals in our brains and bodies.

Originally posted by Ruatha:
But over to the Speed of Light.
If information can travel faster than the speed of light (And that was also belived impossible not long ago) why can't we someday find a way to make matter travel faster than light?

I know that currently the accpted theories don't allow it, but also that without string theory we can't make our theories fit together. And to prove string theory experimental will prove a real challange.

Anyone can make up a theory that allows all the other accepted theories to fit together. The string theory is not the only theory out there that can do this. I don't remember what the others are at this point though. The hard part is making a theory that fits in with reality and being able to have some sort of evidence of its validity.

Originally posted by Aloofi:

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Originally posted by Taera:
makes me think and i agree with you desdinova. if aliens could have avoided the genetical will of people to spit into their neighbour's soup (quote from somewhere) - or put his head on lance, if its Dark Age - their advancements could have went much faster and in a way different way. (yea right)

Nah, I don't think they would had advanced at all without wars. If you look into our history you'll see that the ALL tech advancements have been fueled, inspired, financed, impulsed, pushed, used by the military.
Tech never advanced as fast as in WW2, and after that the cold war gave us from the Space shuttle to the CD player going through microwave technology and stealth composite materials.

A civilization without wars wouldn't have gone farther than collecting fruits form wild trees.
That's why I'm convinced that if there is an alien civilization, and if they actualy make it here, its not gonna be pretty.

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Yeah, that post has basically hit the nail on the head with a laser-guided hammer. Society needs a good big war every few generations to keep from stagnating. Wars also keep economies running strong. WWII was the only thing that got the world out of the Great Depression, after all.

[ February 27, 2003, 18:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
Guys, do you want another mandy to light it up?

No. That doesn't lighten anything up.

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Chill out man, and enjoy life.
What about a Kylie?

[Fyron]

Pictures of anyone are not going to lighten anything up. All they do is make the page take longer to load, and waste a lot of space.