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				 Is this computer a good deal? 
 My hard drive on my old (1996) Toshiba 166 MHz computer is going bad (had numberous cross linked files, which is why it crapped under scandisk).
 Anyway, I have decided to get a new computer.  My company IT guy recommended the following computer.  What is your opinion?
 
 Systemax Venture C20
 VIA P4M266 Chipset - 7-bay Mid-Tower Chassis w/ 300 w power supply
 Intel Celteron Processor 1.7 GHz with 128k Cache
 258 MB PC 133 SDRAM
 20 BG Ultra ATA (5400 rpm) hard Drive
 Integrated AGP graphics
 48x12x48 CDRW drive
 Integrated 10/100 network adaptor
 Cyber Acoustics 2016 Speakers
 Intergrated Audio, keboard, mouse, WinXP home edition, 1 yr warranty.
 
 All of this for $26.21 + $51.99 s&h
 
 Is this a good deal??
 
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				February 28th, 2003, 09:22 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Is this computer a good deal? 
 Greybeard, it depends on what you will be doing with it. Also, does it come with warranty? 
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				 Re: Is this computer a good deal? 
 $26.21??? why the S&H is double that!!!
 If the above price is correct, I do not see a value problem here.
 
 GreyBeard,
 Actually, I do not like VIA (bad experience), Celeron (lightweight), or Integrated Graphics.
 You may find your system is too slow to play most 3D games.
 Most integrated graphics are generations behind.
 
 I do like MSI motherBoards. Reliable and well supported.
 I do like nVidia GeForce graphic chips. But.. buy the card from a reliable name brand.
 MSI does have integrated graphics based on the GeForce 2 chips. So I would make an exception here.
 
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				 Re: Is this computer a good deal? 
 lol, if you're serious... and you can trust this guy - then its a good deal 
i assume that cost is a big issue, otherwise you'd be getting a new, real rig?
 
its amazing what you can get for 500 bux these days - nice new system - with decent cpu and ram etc etc   
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	I'm not sure why the shipping is so high, but the e-mail they sent to Andy said that's their standard rate for a tower.  I thought it was high too, but I won't pay sales tax.  Am looking at the total cost.  Do you think it is reasonable or not?Quote: 
	
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	I bought top of the line in 1996, for $2700!!!  This time, I just want something adequate for home use, internet, word-processing, games, etc.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Cirvol: lol, if you're serious... and you can trust this guy - then its a good deal
 
 i assume that cost is a big issue, otherwise you'd be getting a new, real rig?
 
 its amazing what you can get for 500 bux these days - nice new system - with decent cpu and ram etc etc
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	All that for 78 dollars!?!?!Quote: 
	
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 All of this for $26.21 + $51.99 s&h
 
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				 Re: Is this computer a good deal? 
 greybeard, is this guy selling a lot of used systems like this?
 lol, i could pick up a few if its for real
 
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	I'm not sure why the shipping is so high, but the e-mail they sent to Andy said that's their standard rate for a tower.  I thought it was high too, but I won't pay sales tax.  Am looking at the total cost.  Do you think it is reasonable or not?Quote: 
	
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 It sounds like your buying a used system.
 
 Is that $26.21 a month?
 
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	This is out of the Global Computer catalog.  I think that I got a small price break because of our IT guy's relationship with them and previous orders.  Their web site is globalcomputer.com.  You can order a catalog there or price a new sustem if you wish....GreybeardQuote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Cirvol: greybeard, is this guy selling a lot of used systems like this?
 
 lol, i could pick up a few if its for real
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