AI colony ship design

raynor · #1 February 6th, 2001, 08:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
Agreed. Easier fix than others I have seen or implemented in my own mod. I didn't notice this problem as much in my own mod b/c a long time ago I changed the engine components so that the upgraded engines for each engine type consume 10, 9 and 8 supplies, respectively (instead of 10, 10, and 10 in the game). I cannot take credit for the ideal, I think Talenn, Jubala or one of the others in the early days came up with this.

Hey! Now that's a pretty good idea! I've always hated that the II and III engines of each type just slightly decreased the cost. It seemed like the only reason you researched it was to get the next engine that adds a movement point. But decreasing the supplies used by each successive Version is pretty brilliant! My compliments to whomever came up with this idea.

Daynarr · #2 February 6th, 2001, 10:12 PM

Great ideas Tampa and geoschmo, I will definitely use them in my mod too. Also, I agree with geoschmo that colonizers should be canceling their orders (or updating to be more accurate), someone could mail this to MM, maybe they will put it in next patch.

Baron Munchausen · #3 February 7th, 2001, 12:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
Agreed. Easier fix than others I have seen or implemented in my own mod. I didn't notice this problem as much in my own mod b/c a long time ago I changed the engine components so that the upgraded engines for each engine type consume 10, 9 and 8 supplies, respectively (instead of 10, 10, and 10 in the game). I cannot take credit for the ideal, I think Talenn, Jubala or one of the others in the early days came up with this.

[This message has been edited by Tampa_Gamer (edited 06 February 2001).]

Be aware that this decreases the value of the Advanced Power Conservation trait, though.

Baron Munchausen · #4 February 8th, 2001, 02:31 AM

Argh!!!

I got bit by the stupidity of the AI with that colony module mod. It's putting colony modules in WARSHIPS because they have more supply storage than the standard supply storage component. ()&*$*&*$@*&!$_**_!$!!

So, I had to drop it to standard supply module capacity so the stupid AI won't use a 400kt component in place of a 10kt component with the same supply capacity.

You'd think there would be some simple comparisons done when putting a ship together.

geoschmo · #5 February 8th, 2001, 03:02 AM

ROFL, that's great! Just goes to show why coming up with an "adequate" ai is harder than people think.

Oh, well. Some extra supply is better than none. Won't eliminate the problem of derelict colony ships, but it should help.

Assistant: Chief, why are we putting a colony module on on this cruiser again?

Chief: Cause His Higness feels the extra range is neccesary to expand his empire of course!

Assintant: But want are they going to shoot at the enemy, cans of spam and bottled water?

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Daynarr · #6 February 8th, 2001, 09:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Argh!!!

I got bit by the stupidity of the AI with that colony module mod. It's putting colony modules in WARSHIPS because they have more supply storage than the standard supply storage component. ()&*$*&*$@*&!$_**_!$!!

So, I had to drop it to standard supply module capacity so the stupid AI won't use a 400kt component in place of a 10kt component with the same supply capacity. You'd think there would be some simple comparisons done when putting a ship together.

I though AI may do something like that.

Anyways, I am using our mod pack and in it the Mephisto has disabled all the supply components. You may, of course, increase the capacity of Supply Storage I to exceed the capacity of the colony module (give them something like 1500 for colony and 1501,2000 and 2500 for storage). Fixes the problem without hassle.

[This message has been edited by Daynarr (edited 08 February 2001).]

Tomgs · #7 February 8th, 2001, 12:00 PM

I had even more fun when I raised the supply storage of engine components

. I started running into empires with 7 engines on their ship because the enginge level III had more supplies than a level 1 Supply storage unit. Of course it only takes up 10KT so it didn't overburden their ship a lot but they were definitly faster in combat.