Debate on North Korea.

[TerranC]

I don't think nationalism exists in a homogenous(sp?) country, and why whould that play a factor in a war against North Korea?

Also, Why would china join in if there was a war against North Korea? The cold war is over; even though there may be tensions between China and the US, it's not what it once was 50 years ago. Also, China's Foreign policy is "mind your own business, and we'll mind ours". China already has enough to worry about how it's going to have to control it's economy, keep it's ethnicities in line, and it's war on drugs. I hardly doubt that it's going to sacrifice thousands of people for a backwards "ally". Although in case of war, it wouldn't like US forces near it's borders.

And Atrocities, NK is rattling it's sabre in order to LIVE, not get love and attention from CNN. The NK demands Food and Oil shipments for it to abandon it's nuclear program entirely. If NK wanted attention, it would have bombed Tokyo by now.

Mac, there is no armistice, not on the SK side. President Syngman Rhee (I think that's the correct english spelling) never signed it. Both sides can still attack at will.

[tesco samoa]

neomax.... I believe that the reason for all these debates is that we are all confertable with each other now. and pretend were at a coffee shop or pub when we chat here. The opinions differ as does the delivery. But if some one is offended by a post they are informed and given a chance to defend it or re type it after looking at what they typed.

I tried to stay out of the debates... But hey you read this site every day... And your friends are in a heated conversation. One must join in.

So Neomax. I hope that you and all the new people stay around this forum so that one day we can become friends.

Take Care

Simon

[Phoenix-D]

"And Atrocities, NK is rattling it's sabre in order to LIVE, not get love and attention from CNN. The NK demands Food and Oil shipments for it to abandon it's nuclear program entirely."

And this gets laughed at because that's the exact same thing it had before. It just wants more to not break its agreements now.

The way I see it, it worked like so:
US: quit your nuke program, we'll send X amount of food and fuel oil.
NK: OK
NK 1 year later (resumes nuke program)
NK years later: we're starting again. Nyaa.
US: OK. No food for you.
NK: WHAT?
US: you heard me.
NK: Give us 2X food and fuel oil and we'll stop..

Phoenix-D

[DavidG]

Originally posted by neomax:
Oh, I am just wondering how could a thread just like this one appear on a space strategy game forum. I suggest that you American guys discuss this topic on the Usenet group soc.culture.china or soc.culture.korean or soc.culture.japan. It will be interesting. It will be MUCH MORE INTERESTING for you to know the extream nationalism in China and Korea.

Well I was going to say the reason is that everyone here is pretty mature but since someone seems to have rated you a one I'll rephrase that to most people here are pretty mature so it makes for a good discussion. I know other forms (such as any forum on F1 racing) are so full of imature people name calling they are not much fun. (PS If you know a good F1 forum e-mail me. )

[mac5732]

TC, are you sure on the not signing, From the books I've read, I've been under the impression that we (UN) only have an armistice with them, and yes, the war could start again at any time because there really was no signed agreement to end the war. I'll have to do some research, I could have sworn we have an armistice..

Neomax, The members of this forum discuss a lot of topics on SE4 and game related items. However, Off Topic discussions do appear once in awhile by the members, and its enjoyable to discuss these OT subjects with the friends you've made here at the forum. That's what is enchanting with the members here, you can discuss the game and sometimes other OT subjects. I think that after you've been here awhile you'll see that for yourself.

If you think this topic is OT, I can see you've never been to the cantina

just some ideas mac

[ March 23, 2003, 04:00: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[mac5732]

I agree, tangling with NK, brings up a whole new set of diplomatic and potential excalation problems. China is NK's big brother and so any war with them must take into account the possibility of involving China, more so then the Soviets. I don't believe China approves of a lot of things NK does, but they are close allies, so therefore, one must tread warily in this area and obtain a commitment from China of non interferance if the balloon goes up.

just some ideas mac

[mac5732]

TC,

Military History, April, 2003, page 73

"With the final signing of the armistice agreement at Panmunjom on July 27th, 1953, Pork Chop hill became part of the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea..."

If that is the case then maybe the UN signed but SK didn't?

just some ideas Mac