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				 Re: I Did It. 
 You can not in any way shape or form compare events to intel projects. Intel projects from a single empire can destroy up to 12 planets in a single turn (though more likely 11 or fewer, as the attacker will need at least 1 CI), and then 12 planets in each subsequent turn, turn after turn. Events could never do that. I think there is a limit of 1 event per turn. 
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				April 7th, 2003, 05:50 PM
			
			
			
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	Like he said, though, it can be balanced through cost.  If it takes, say, 5,000,000 pts to blow up a planet, you aren't likely to see 11 of these in a single turn.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: Intel projects from a single empire can destroy up to 12 planets in a single turn
 
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	This is technically true, but is also a misleading statement.  Generally, you won't see the projects become "harder to defend against" except in a few circumstances since, generally, you put the projects you want to succeed late in the queue, and will have either sapped all the CI points by the time they are attempted, or all your projects will fail anyway.Quote: 
	
		| Also, more expensive means harder to defend against as well. So, those planet busters become even more of a problem if you make them really expensive.
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				April 7th, 2003, 08:27 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: I Did It. 
 5,000,000 is rather excessive, and guarantees that the project will succeed when you finish it. 
I was talking about a 100k project compared to a 50k project (for example), so the price difference does indeed directly translate to harder to defend against there. Also, I never said se4's intel system was any good (in fact, it is about as bad as an intel system can be).    |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 7th, 2003, 08:33 PM
			
			
			
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	5,000,000 isn't as much as it seems - it's not uncommon to have 500k intel points available, so a 5M project would only take 10 turns...  Also, can't you mod the size of the CI projects to cost more that 5,000,000? What is the max value you can set those things to, anyway?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: 5,000,000 is rather excessive, and guarantees that the project will succeed when you finish it.
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	Not really, though.  With the example you give above, you could just do the 50k project twice -- and there is little difference between defending against two 50k projects and one 100k project.Quote: 
	
		| I was talking about a 100k project compared to a 50k project (for example), so the price difference does indeed directly translate to harder to defend against there.
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	I wonder if I can put restriction on it somehow?  Naw, your right, to unbalancing for normal game play.  It is just cool to see an intel project actually blow up a planet.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: You can not in any way shape or form compare events to intel projects. Intel projects from a single empire can destroy up to 12 planets in a single turn (though more likely 11 or fewer, as the attacker will need at least 1 CI), and then 12 planets in each subsequent turn, turn after turn. Events could never do that. I think there is a limit of 1 event per turn.
 
 Also, more expensive means harder to defend against as well. So, those planet busters become even more of a problem if you make them really expensive.
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 There must be a work around for it.  Any one have any suggestions?
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 This is where a good counter intel feature would come in very handy.  I wonder........ 
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