AI diplomacy

Pocus · #1 April 29th, 2003, 10:42 PM

Why an AI in military alliance would drop to murderous in a matter of turns? Can they react to being friendly toward one of their enemy?

What motivate an AI to break a treaty, if you dont infringe in its territory? Same reason as 1), if you are friendly toward their enemy?

How to make peace? You ask for the lowest level of treaty (non intercourse) ?

Feel free to explain what dictate the AI diplomacy

JLS · #2 April 29th, 2003, 11:26 PM

What race are you refering to? in your game.

Captain Kwok · #3 April 30th, 2003, 12:00 AM

AI diplomacy depends on a number of factors that are specified in their anger file.

Most AIs don't like having your ships in their space, colonizing planets in their 'claimed' territory, refusing demands/treaties/etc.

In your case, it sounds like you might be MEE (Mega Evil Empire) which means you are far ahead of the other races in terms of score, so they band up together to defeat you. You can adjust the thresholds and turn on/off the mega evil options in settings.txt file in the data directory.

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 April 30th, 2003, 12:06 AM

pure opportunisim and self-preservation as far as i can tell. your probably to strong or to weak.

Pocus · #5 April 30th, 2003, 08:39 AM

ok, there is so many variables that the system is chaotic. I'm not MEE, far from that. I'm playing the AST mod as the Romulans, and I'm just a middle of the road power. The 8472 which are slightly less powerful than me, and the UCP which is a bit more strong than me went to murderous in a matter of turns, and I'm both in MA with them. Nothing really changed in these turns, there is still many things that should piss them off, but not more than before.

Things which surely displease them:
I'm allied with both and they are at war against each other.
i have planets in their territories.

But as said, it was like that for 30+ turns. So why the situation deteriorate suddenly? I like to understand if there is some logic behind that, or if it is just a matter of 'failed dice roll'...

Taera · #6 April 30th, 2003, 08:51 AM

if its a custom race all is possible
for example i tweaked my own races to realy get pissed off on enemy ships in systems etc.

edit: Besides AI diplomacy is not too well done in SE4

[ April 30, 2003, 07:52: Message edited by: Taera ]

Q · #7 April 30th, 2003, 10:56 AM

There are races that get angry about your colonies that could be also colonized by them!
The more colonies they see, the more they get angry. If they acquire suddenly the full view of your empire by a treaty (which is not necessarily a treaty with you but can be with a third empire), they may turn hostile very quickly and break the treaty with you.

Pocus · #8 April 30th, 2003, 12:41 PM

>There are races that get angry about your colonies that could be also colonized by them!>

hey thats me, does it means I'm an AI

JLS · #9 April 30th, 2003, 12:53 PM

Pocus,

Have you entered into a Partnerships with some AIs common to the AI; that relations has since degraded?

Elaborating on Q's post earlier.

Partnerships with any AI is usually not to your best interests. Actually, the same is true in some Human rivals who also may become envious when they see and become aware of what you are doing, and can do.

Thou shall not covet and what it implies

[ April 30, 2003, 12:52: Message edited by: JLS ]

Q · #10 April 30th, 2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pocus:
>There are races that get angry about your colonies that could be also colonized by them!>

hey thats me, does it means I'm an AI

This could start a long philosophical discussion

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And I forgot to mention that besides a new treaty the discovery of a new colonisation technology of the AI can trigger the same reaction: if you colonize rock and the AI ice you may be best friends. But if the AI has researched rock planet colonization, suddenly all your colonies get so tempting!