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		if... the winning condion is a "galaxy at peace" 
All ? or the mightest empire who forced the global peace by flexing its muscles ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		nobody wins, all lose. A galaxy at peace is an evil thing     .  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The winner(s) are the players who have survived. 
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		I'd have to second Rollo here.      Techincally, the survivors are labeled "winners", but it is a hollow victory (very hollow).     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		So, because it was only an allied "victory", you would be saying Canada (or US or Britain or [insert country of choice here]) "lost" after World Wars 1 and 2? 
   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Keep in mind SE4 is a game, and has no bearing on reality.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		And apart from that the world was hardly at peace, even after the world wars (sad but true). 
 
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		hey... canada was involved in a war!!!!! 
Who , What , Where , When and sometimes Why ??
     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I'm with SJ, more or less. All the remaining empires tie, and the destroyed or subjugated/exiled/smashed ones lose.  
 
However, it'd be more interesting to add some other conditions. 
 
For example, the players should have some other difficult goal(s), but the game only ends after X years at peace. If peace ends the game before anyone has completed their goal, they tie. 
 
If competition is something the players want, then peace ending the game can be a way to force players into a war. 
 
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