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		I am still #13 out of 13 players. Hard to beat AIC with bonuses ! Poor Praetorians are #12 - Xi'Chung pounded them really hard. But the bloodshed inflicted by my weapon platformes should give Praetorians some breathing time.  
I indeed do rather well in Science department: 
My Pandorians have 120% intelligence, scientists culture and Temporal College on Homeworld (another 5% bonus        ) Also, I shiped ~150M people to my first colony (the one which rebelled) and build 10 research expeditions. All things together, I feel pretty good abour my tech. levels. Oh, and remember Centaran I ruins !
 
It is minerals shortage that worries me. Dozen of starliners cost almost all my homeworld income in maintanence ! I must trade radio to minerals in 2:1 ratio with AI just to stay alive (they drive hard bargins        ). But now, when my mighty fleet (all seven shiny destroeyers        ) are dead, I can afford new construction.  
Jraenars keep quite, thankfully. I have no real chance to defend Centarian II now      
 
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Oleg, 
How do you save the jpg pictures and have them available for us to see? 
 
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 I use PrtScr. and paste it in Photoshop. Then save picture as jpeg file and upload here. It is indeed tedious    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 The AI trades at 2:1 . The reason for this, is so the Human Player will be hard pressed to bankrupt that AI of any one particular resource.   
 
IF you were playing against another rival Human Player, how would he trade, if he/she new you were in a desperate need  20kt of Organics          
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Oleg, the Centurion, planets are good for the ruins, do you think that they may be a distraction from the economy?  Considering there is only One Planet in the System. (if so, that was my goal) 
 
If you should find a Centurion System that is a Binary or Trinary,  go into Stellar Harnessing to complement the Astrophysics you have already achieved thru the Artifact you found from the Ruins. 
 
Build Solar Panels and trade the excess rads for needed minerals thru the Trade Center (industry Tech) or most AI. 
Cue Cappa, Cluck Ruk and Terrans being the Merchants will enjoy your trade offers more frequent then some other AI’s                     
                    
  This continued trade offers, could help subsidize your Military Goals                     
(To a somewhat a pre-calculated Point) 
 
Please remember, most races especially Xenophobe’s do not like offer trade that often                                           
 
Please do not underestimate, setting up OutPosts (Asteroid MINING), or Radioactive Processing Vessels to extract any needed Resources from nearby Asteroids. 
 
Organics also need to be Harvested for your empire to Grow. (star liner maint) Keep an eye out for a few rich Organic Planets to settle early                                                         
 
 Now if you were of crystalline descent with the Knowledge of Crystallurgy and fortunate enough to have a few Centurion Systems.  Interesting how this Parallels for a Story Line                                       
 
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Could you post your Colonies Report {f5}, with Value then Production highlighted? 
 
~TIP~ You will not succeed in AIC; if you play it, like it was a war game.  Keep one eye on the Economy at all times and the other on your neighbors.  Just as if you were playing against a Human Player. 
 
Respect to AI Low and Medium Bonus, in AIC. The AI curb will increase, as the game Years go by. It will not be - as you may expect                         
  
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		Here are empires status around the First Centurian Battle: 
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The numbers are before AI bonus factored in. You can see how down the list I am. But still, I am the most advanced race, albeit VERY poor     
Oh, and Jraenar can not attack me because of insufficent supplies. They certainly need to build more supply ships or research cargo II !! 
Several times I saw Jraenars ships turning back just after warping to Centarian 2 system. This is despite having a supply point in the nearby system ! (they have a military alliance with Cue Cappa who has a supply bace there ).  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Oleg, the Centurion, planets are good for the ruins, do you think that they may be a distraction from the economy?  Considering there is only One Planet in the System. (if so, that was my goal) 
 
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		Not knowing the whole picture. 
I would agree, you are in need of resources, you barely have more, then you started the game with.   
What level of Resources Extractions where you, when you had level 4 Temporal Weapons? Your opponent then, the  Hive only had level 2 Organic Weapons….  You may need some infrastructure techs to get the economy jump-started.   
 
If you have any multi star systems, sure Urban Development would be great for the long run, but I believe you need Solar Panels for Rads to trade for minerals, so you can increase your fleet sooner.  You are at war, man.  Get on a war footing, as fast as you can.  
 
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It takes a large investment of People, Time, Food, and Energy to Maintain Urban Construction on far away Colonies.   
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Mixed SAT fields should help you on the Defence, but with out CVs or Fighter Patrols at the warp point the AI will blow thru that. 
 
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It is tough to play the game you have now, you have many AI Players for a Centurion Map, and you only have 3 Systems.  It looks like the Jraenar and the XiChung have a head start building up the infurstructure on a few Binary or Trinary systems themselves.  You will need 3-5 more Systems to compete. 
 
You have a tough an uphill battle, Oleg.  
 
But it appears you have the Research Advantage for now. Also the  XiChung and/or Jraenar already have another war as well. 
  
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