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[Slynky]

Originally posted by geckomlis:

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Originally posted by Slynky:
Us boardgamers, it seems to me, have always been very competitive. In some "face-to-face" games, I've even had opponents get upset and quit (and even throw counters from the board).

Ditto. I also have had people cheat right in front of me - like, really, I was not going to notice? I am smart enough to kick your *** in a game with a 100-page rulebook, but not to notice your are cheating? In either case, I never willingly played with them again.

On the other hand, I used to go to a local wargaming group's meetings once a month, 9AM-10PM on a Saturday. 50 men playing dozens of different wargames in a hotel ballroom. No incidences of the behavior mentioned above. Lots of: “ I think you will probably lose the game if you make that move. Here is how the game works. Okay, now take your Last turn over and see how it goes.” It is called mentoring, which is a relationship based on trust and mutual interest. And it is absolutely essential to fostering a community

Gecko

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Well, that IS a breath of fresh air. As my experience has been, most people take advantage of rule-inexperience.

Your example reminds me of Origins, though. Imagine pick-up-gaming all night long. On tables in gaming rooms, hotel rooms, in the cafeteria or "eating establishment", and in the hallways leading to rooms. You can meet some really die-hard gamers at a convention like that!

[PvK]

I've noticed that with a few other game communitites, too. The more thought, strategy, intelligence and sophistication involved in a game, the more civil and interesting the players tend to be.

The dorks tend to be the players who are there because they think the game is the latest cool thing. Fortunately, they tend to wander to the latest fad after a while, which is another reason to stick with the best games rather than the latest flashiest games.

PvK

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Taera:
never seen a more mature community.

I agree although sometimes it seems so mature it makes me feel like a 2 year old. I seen things posted (only a few times ) that if directed towards me would make me totally blow my lid but they are always handled very properly.

[General Woundwort]

Reading over this thread brought an ancient incident in my life to mind...

Back in my H.S. days (when the mastadons roamed the earth), we had a weekly roleplay/wargaming club. Now admittedly we had our share of bad apples (and I bent the rules myself on more than one occasion ), but this one incident stuck in my mind. We were playing one of the spin-off games made by the same folks as Axis and Allies - I think it was Fortress America or something like that, anyways it was a four-player game, the rest of the world attepting to conquer the US of A (kinda like Red Dawn). This time around, I was one of the invaders (South America I think?). Anyways, the guy who played America beat the three of us, hands down. But when he re-conquered the Last territory in America and won the game, we didn't begrudge him the win - in fact, the four of us, completely spontaneously, actually started to hum, and then ended up singing the final verse to, the Star-Spangled Banner.

Yeah, it's nationalistic and sappy, but who cares?

EDIT - BTW, Mathias, nice avatar. I wonder what your caffeine rating in the SEIV Code is?

[ June 17, 2003, 01:49: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

[TerranC]

Originally posted by PvK:
The dorks tend to be the players who are there because they think the game is the latest cool thing. Fortunately, they tend to wander to the latest fad after a while, which is another reason to stick with the best games rather than the latest flashiest games.

... Well, I do think that SE4 is the latest cool thing.

So what does that make me?

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by TerranC:
... Well, I do think that SE4 is the latest cool thing.

So what does that make me?

Perceptive and mature - as long as you stick with SEIV and don't defect to Quake XXVII.

[ June 17, 2003, 02:04: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

[Loser]

Personally I think it's the UPS background colors.

But seriously, though I have personally troubled these waters once or twice, this place does have an incredible level of civility.

Let the patting-on-the-back resume. You guys are great.