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	A problem with this weapon: canīt remember the patch, but now first you need to put the enemy shields down to have effect... then, don't think is so useful. The Tessellate use them in limited designes.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by PvK: The Energy Dampener is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. One hit = one disabled enemy ship, especially mounted. Unlike the Psychic Mental Flailer, it isn't blocked by Master Computers, either.
 
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 so whats the best racial tech combo you think for devnull 1.7??
 crystal and psychic?
 crystal and religous?
 
 if you had to pick 2, which would you do?
 
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	A problem with this weapon: canīt remember the patch, but now first you need to put the enemy shields down to have effect... then, don't think is so useful. The Tessellate use them in limited designes.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Master Belisarius: 
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 The Energy Dampener is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. One hit = one disabled enemy ship, especially mounted. Unlike the Psychic Mental Flailer, it isn't blocked by Master Computers, either.
 
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 |  Interesting. I could not find such a reference in history file. Why  was it changed ??? It is indeed became a worthless weapon
 
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 Crystal and religious. Skip all shields, skip all armor. 
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	A problem with this weapon: canīt remember the patch, but now first you need to put the enemy shields down to have effect... then, don't think is so useful. The Tessellate use them in limited designes.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by oleg: 
 quote:Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
 
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 The Energy Dampener is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. One hit = one disabled enemy ship, especially mounted. Unlike the Psychic Mental Flailer, it isn't blocked by Master Computers, either.
 
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 |  Interesting. I could not find such a reference in history file. Why  was it changed ??? It is indeed became a worthless weapon
   Agree, I can't see it in the history... but think it was when the Ionic Disperser was fixed.
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 you just realize that before a single hit from ID could simply disable the ship -- it was the ultimate killer weapon. just send in two frigates, the enemy is toast - it might shoot, but it cant move anymore. i think its a very great change there. 
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	But WHY did he do it ?? I never saw anyone complaining aboutQuote: 
	
		| Agree, I can't see it in the history... but think it was when the Ionic Disperser was fixed.[/QB] |    How about Mental Flair, is it affected too ?
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 Taera... so Crystal and Religious you think are the most over-balanced? 
How would you fight against someone with both traits?    
(aside from trying to kill them early which is obvious 
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	He just mentioned ID for time reference. He was talking about the change to the Energy Dampener.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Taera: you just realize that before a single hit from ID could simply disable the ship -- it was the ultimate killer weapon. just send in two frigates, the enemy is toast - it might shoot, but it cant move anymore. i think its a very great change there.
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 Cirvol - well, theres only one way - outrange them. Because Chant Crystal has a low range and Crystal Shard doesnt skip shields, and has rather low damage. The point is though that even that chant crystal doesnt do that much damage.However, a religious/crystal race could be quite devastating because of the economy bonuses overlaps - -30% maintenance, plus time and nature shrines, plus solar collectors...
 I still think its a fair thing for 3k cost.
 
 Fyron - what was the change?
 
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