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		I think your idea has some really interesting possibilities, Lastseer. Actually sounds like it might be fun if it works. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Space Yard Mod 1.0 by (Last)seer. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I've always assumed the "planetary" shipyards were actually orbital. After all, the sectors are big enough to include any moons' orbits. At the scale of the game, I think "Low Earth Orbit" is within the spaces the planet takes on the tactical map. 
 
While being able to do surgical strikes on the shipyards would be neat, I'm not sure how you'd implement it. An orbital shipyard would just be part of the massive "satellite group" in close orbit around the planet, so finding the individual satellite representing the spaceyard could be a problem. 
 
OTOH, we already have orbital facilities in the form of Bases with the Shipyard component. How can we differentiate them from the Spaceyard facility? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I think that a fatser rate of production on Space based yards is a good idea, as if you think about it you can gain access to the entire ship. This would allow for a faster construction of ships. 
 
See Massive Ship Yards for my ideas on that subject. 
 
I don't think that slowing done the planet based ones though is a good idea though, at the start of the game you only get yards 1, not very fast. With this level of tech at the start planets should build faster. Think about now in the USA. They build on the planet. But in the future mankind would most likely build massive ships off-planet, higher tech!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Maybe a solution is to add the faster space-based shipyards as higher tech areas on the research tree.  In other words, continue the progression for Space Yards to levels 4-6; include both the regular-sized yards, with progressively faster rates, and the massive yards; maybe continue the tree to level 9, with faster rates for the massive yards.  Something like: 
 
Space Yards level 4: Space Yard IV, Massive Space Yard I 
 
Space Yards level 5: Space Yard V, Massive Space Yard II 
 
etc. 
 
BTW - I really like the Temporal Space Yards the way they are.  Building at a rate of 9000 min/org/rad per turn (after bonuses, of course)... now THAT'S the way to defeat your enemies!!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I wish there were some way you could design a massive space yard so that as a whole, it has a production of, for example, 6000 per turn. But it requires four components on four starbases to get that rate. Otherwise, if you only have three, you get 4500, two 3000 and one 1500, or some such arrangement. 
 
I wonder if you would twist the RingWorld code to do this? I guess I just want a Massive Space Yard to be truly *massive*... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		  quote: Originally posted by raynor: 
I wish there were some way you could design a massive space yard ... 
  
create a hull more than 2x the size of a starbase, and make it require more life support stations than will FIT on a starbase.  then make a shipyard component to take up the rest of the space that will also be too big to fit on a starbase.  if you want, you can custom make a life support unit for it that has a hundred or so life support functions.  this will make sure that it is to expensive to build for any other reason than for this one SY component, and for anything else you are just better off building SBs.  of course, the whole idea breaks down when someone puts a master computer on one.  not quite sure what to do about that.
 
or just do it on the same hull and make it as expensive as you want both resource and research wise, as the A.G. points out above.
 
Thanks AG.
 
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