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	How do you know that ?Quote: 
	
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 I also noted that no more than 5 mines took out one of my smaller fleets at a Warp Point.  5 small mines that is.
 |  There are many "rotten" trics in PBW. Could it be that another player also had minefields on the same location ?
 
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 hi, welcome to the forums. cheese?
 it's a great game once you figure out what your doing.
 
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 I want to repeat primitives question;How do you know that it was 5 small mines? Did your opponent tell you so?
 You can't see minefields before you hit them, so I don't see how you know what mines there where?
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 your sweeper would get them as it sweeps one set then the next 
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 As for the type of mine, I think that once your ships have been in "combat" with enemy mines, those mines will appear in your Enemy Designs view in the design window, right?
 As for the number of mines, well, maybe he was guessing based on knowledge of the type of ship that laid the mines - although that should go in multiples of two, shouldn't it, depending on the number of mine bays in the ship? (And if one were able to observe the movements of the mine-laying ship at the time the mines must have been laid, one might be able to know whether the ship had spent more than one turn in that sector.)Otherwise, yeah, I don't think one could know that.
 
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 As for the original question of how to protect a planet from invasion: try to keep the troops from landing, and have your own troops on planet to fight them if they do land (although your troops will probably be destroyed before he lands if there is any pre-landing bombardmet). As for how to keep the from landing, anything that will kill (or even M-kill at least two squares away from the planet) the troop carriers will do: weapon platforms on planet; mines or fighters or satellites launched by the planet; your combat fleets in the sector.
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	Maybe this should go in a new thread, but this is incorrect. I have seen it posted before and it's possible in previous Versions it was correct, but as far as 1.84 goes it is incorrect. If multiple empires place mines in the same sector it can overload your minesweepers. The number of mines a sweeper can sweep is per turn, not per turn per empire.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by tesco samoa: your sweeper would get them as it sweeps one set then the next
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