OT: why football is better than American football

gravey101 · #1 October 11th, 2003, 03:55 AM

Bullcrap yourself. Who said anything about buying? I'm talking about playing.

gravey101 · #2 October 11th, 2003, 04:00 AM

And of course, just to play devils-advocate of course, if soccer was so untenable profitwise, why are all the kids being marketed to to play soccer... just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Or maybe these markting guys know something you don't, or something you won't admit? You argue that soccer is profitless, then at the same time you say the only reason folk play in the states is because that is what is being 'marketed' to them, buy, excuse me if I'm worng, prople who are extemely profit-driven. Makes no sense to me...

[ October 11, 2003, 03:07: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

Thermodyne · #3 October 11th, 2003, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by gravey101:
And of course, just to play devils-advocate of course, if soccer was so untenable profitwise, why are all the kids being marketed to to play soccer... just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Or maybe these markting guys know something you don't, or something you won't admit?

Marketed how? Kids have always played sports. If soccer is such a draw, why is there so little of it on TV? There is more golf and car racing than soccer.

gravey101 · #4 October 11th, 2003, 04:12 AM

err, weren't you the one who said

>Bullcrap! They buy what is marketed to them.

And then you say

>Marketed how?

You have me confused. You appear to be arguing both sides...

>Kids have always played sports. If soccer is such a draw, why is there so little of it on TV? There is more golf and car racing than soccer.

You missed, or chose to ignore, my point, which was that most of todays profitabiltiy from sports, and thus what is shown on TV which is understandably entirely profit-orientated, is driven from the views of the wage-earners of todays society, 25-60 or whatever. This in turn is driven by what they leaned to appreciate as kids. I believe that the kids of today will be hooked on soccer when they are in that age-group, becuase that is what they are appreciating today, as kids. Like it or not, todays kids are tomorrows spenders.

Also, you kinda make my point in one way. Who ever thought 30 years ago that golf would be so huge ?

[ October 11, 2003, 03:17: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

Thermodyne · #5 October 11th, 2003, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by gravey101:
err, weren't you the one who said

>Bullcrap! They buy what is marketed to them.

And then you say

>Marketed how?

You have me confused. You appear to be arguing both sides...

>Kids have always played sports. If soccer is such a draw, why is there so little of it on TV? There is more golf and car racing than soccer.

You missed, or chose to ignore, my point, which was that most of todays profitabiltiy from sports, and thus what is shown on TV which is understandably entirely profit-orientated, is driven from the views of the wage-earners of todays society, 25-60 or whatever. This in turn is driven by what they leaned to appreciate as kids. I believe that the kids of today will be hooked on soccer when they are in that age-group, becuase that is what they are appreciating today, as kids. Like it or not, todays kids are tomorrows spenders.

Also, you kinda make my point in one way. Who ever thought 30 years ago that golf would be so huge ?

No, I read your statement for what was written. I was asking for you to qualify your statement.

As to golf, there are quite a few very wealthy developers that had it pegged. IMHO, golf fits the athletic ability and social tastes of a large portion of the population. It is also a game where training and practice are almost as important as physical ability. So Joe Needstodroptwentypounds Blow can be quite good at golf with enough practice. Not to mention that it is one of the few sports where a few bucks can get you in a game with a real pro. And for us non-hitters, we can drive the new Caddies and rub elbows for free.

gravey101 · #6 October 11th, 2003, 04:31 AM

>No, I read your statement for what was written. I was asking for you to qualify your statement.

ok, I qualified it. Feel free to respond. about soccer that is.

Thermodyne · #7 October 11th, 2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by gravey101:
>No, I read your statement for what was written. I was asking for you to qualify your statement.

ok, I qualified it. Feel free to respond. about soccer that is.

Unless you support your argument, there is nothing to argue. You asked why soccer is being marketed to kids. I don�t see much of that happening. The kids I see buying advertised sports items are more or less buying football and basketball items. In the stores I see soccer balls and shoes, no licensed sportswear at all. If you meant to say recruited, then that would be a whole different point to argue. And I would hope that you realize that this is just a debate, not a point of any real importance to the world. So my comments are intended to bait and solicit responses, not to cause any undue anger.