Who's going to see Return of the King tonight?

Fyron · #1 December 30th, 2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
That did come to mind for me as well actually. Is that scene not in the books?

Of course not. Neither was that ridiculous skate/snowboarding scene in the 2nd movie...

Krsqk · #2 December 30th, 2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by gravey101:
Geo, to a certain extent, one could say that about the second book too. It certainly was transitional. The movie struggled with it as much as the novels did IMO.

The second book is transitional, but it does better. The movie is focused on Rohan, while the book is focused on Orthanc, since that's the center of Sauron's activity in the area. Also, the stopping point for the movie is pretty dull--I know you have to wrap things up for a movie; but it's not like a real sequel--it's a story in three parts.

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I was dissapointed they did not film the scene at the gate of MT when Gandalph and the Lord of the Nazgul clashed after grond had broken that gate. That was one of my favorite passages in the book.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGH! THEY LEFT THAT OUT?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

*stomps up and down, jumping in little circles*

Oh well. It's not like that was a dramatic scene, a clash between two massive powers, a test of two wills, or something that would have looked great on screen or anything.

Fyron · #3 December 30th, 2003, 12:40 AM

Maybe it will be in the extended edition...

gravey101 · #4 December 30th, 2003, 12:43 AM

One can only hope but given the scenes around the breaking of the gate that were in the theatrical cut, I really can't see it myself.

[ December 29, 2003, 22:43: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

Fyron · #5 December 30th, 2003, 12:44 AM

Some of the extra scenes in FOTR didn't look like they would have been there, given the scenes around them in the theatrical cut. Same with TTT. There are slightly different Versions of such scenes in the theatrical cuts to cover up the gaps.

gravey101 · #6 December 30th, 2003, 12:57 AM

Well, I really hope you are right.

What they did 'include' was a scene where Gandalf rushes out from MT on his own to save the remnants of Faramir's Denethor inspired counter attack on Osgilliath (sp). Gandalf uses his staff like a light sabre, sending bolts of something or the other at the flying Nazgul and manages to disuade them from their attack. Not as bad as the shield skating from the TT but in the same league IMO. Also, and bear in mind that it has been 20 years since I got as far as the ROTK when reading, but I do not remember Faramir being forced into a suicidel counter-attack by Denethor... came across as silly in the movie to me with 150 horseman charging at the remanants of a reuined city. Mercifully it was brief in the movie but I suspect we may be in for more in the extended Version. Oh well.

[ December 29, 2003, 22:58: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

geoschmo · #7 December 30th, 2003, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
That did come to mind for me as well actually. Is that scene not in the books?

Of course not. Neither was that ridiculous skate/snowboarding scene in the 2nd movie...

A simple yes or no would suffice for these answers you know. There is no "of course" about it when talking to someone that hasn't read the books. Neither of those sceens seems particularly out of place for someone who doesn't really know what to expect. That's one of the reasons I am reading the books now. I probably should have read them before watching the movies though.