OT - How would sc-fi ships do in battle against each other?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

no contenders? to bad. i guess it comes down to it or the magog worldship...and the worldship would have to get close enough to put unarmored and almost unarmed troops on board. it's toast.

i don't know how the Electronic Warfare capabilities would stack up.

for the death star/borg cube/ID4 mothership catagory, i say a DW Superdreadnought (Pod) is in the same catagory. i'm not sure how many missiles it could fire, but i think it's a total of 700, fired from pods rolled out the back of the ship. true, it's way out of the death star's tonnage at only 8 million tonnes, but what Honer Harrington would do is bombard the thing with missiles from a measly 2LM away, well within a MDM's 3LM range. which can go to 9LM at half-acceleration. so, she bLasts all the main guns to smitherens. after that, i admit it would take a long time to blow up a death star, even with an SD's guns, and it might come down to wether she can blow a big enough hole to reach the reacter before the smaller guns blow her ship up. but all that assume's there's no fighters. sigh. unless it has those new bow and stern sidewalls and she keeps them up to blow aways the fighters, there's no chance. and that would give the death star time to come in range.

anyone else get the idea i think DW's ships are the coolest? at least technically. Enterprise is the only competition.

Borg cube: ok, a borg cube isn't out of the weight range of a 4km long ship. in fact, i think the SD(P) may be larger. i think the SD(P) has a huge range advantage still, but even a manty SD(P) can only accelerate at i think 450g's. so, without bow and sternwalls, it would come down to wether the SD(P) could blow apart the borg cube before it came in range to shoot at the bow or the stern of the SD(P) or adapted. atvantage: Borg. definitaly. with bow and sternwalls, it would come down to wether the borg could adapt. i think that ones even. they might be able to adapt their shots to deal with the sidewalls, which are just focused gravity fields. can't remember if there in the 100's of g's catagory or the 1,000's of g's catagory.

ID4 mothership: ok, it's huge. about the length of the moon. i'd guess it would go about the same as the death star.

so, ok, it isn't quite up to the weight class, but it's definitly the plucky short guy. but i think the borg might be in that catagory to.

[ February 18, 2004, 04:27: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[QuarianRex]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
First of all, the Enterprise could outrun anything in the Star Wars universe. A star destroyer and the Millenium Falcon might get up to light speed, but we all know that any ship from the Star Trek universe could go to warp 9.99, which is 9.99 the speed of light cubed.

Where on earth did you get this idea? SW ships are much, much faster than trek ships. Voyager found itself on the other side of the galaxy and it was a 75 year trip home. Han Solo went from Tatooine to alderan in @three weeks. The republic (and then the empire) spaned an entire galaxy and ships routinely travelled its span without the need for generation ships. Propulsion tech in Star Wars is therefore vastly superior to that of trek. Don't get confused by the non-technical references to "lightspeed" and "lasers". These are just colloquialisms of a 70's space opera. Judge the tech by what it does, not by what it it's called.

[Fyron]

And, of course, the Rebel Fleet gathered together well outside the galaxy, and we could see the spiral arms and all quite nicely. I think that was SW VI... or was it V?

[Imperial]

the Yamato/Argo is from the Japanese anime cartoon Known in the U.S. as Starblazers. Id like to see a mock up of what a Zentradi(SP?) Flagship (from Robotech/Macross) can do too--those ships were nasty in the cartoon.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Where on earth did you get this idea? SW ships are much, much faster than trek ships. Voyager found itself on the other side of the galaxy and it was a 75 year trip home. Han Solo went from Tatooine to alderan in @three weeks. The republic (and then the empire) spaned an entire galaxy and ships routinely travelled its span without the need for generation ships. Propulsion tech in Star Wars is therefore vastly superior to that of trek. Don't get confused by the non-technical references to "lightspeed" and "lasers". These are just colloquialisms of a 70's space opera. Judge the tech by what it does, not by what it it's called.

i think he means the slower than light drive. in which case, the ST ships are faster.

[QuarianRex]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i think he means the slower than light drive. in which case, the ST ships are faster.

He was talking about Warp drives, not impulse. As far as slower than light drives go I've seen nothing to indicate that impulse is faster. Have you seen the dogfights (of lack thereof) in trek. Even looking at shuttles/runabouts vs. SW fighters (craft that are similar enough to be compared) the trek craft are rediculously ponderous. Again, the speed edge has to go to SW.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

well, the tech manuals, as far as i know, say different. this is only what i've heard. and SW had a higher effects budget porportionally, i think.